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Old 10-02-2018, 10:32 AM   #201
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I had to use Sun/Fortune strats because I knew a money farm existed but didnt realize that is was centered around momentos bosses and by the time I went to do the money farm I had beaten all momentos bosses that were susceptible to confuse...When I play it again I wont make that mistake
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The one confidant who gives speeches, is that Tora? I believe you get an ability from him that allows you to ask for more money during negotiations, basically I just keep asking and asking until the shadows get pissed at me and I knock them down again and just repeat the negotiations. Some of the enemies give you between 5000-8000 yen per turn so you can walk away from some battles having farmed like 50,000
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yes the Tora is Sun confidant

If you combine that with the fortune confidants money reading you can get extra money when you cant get the suns perk to activate and if you combine that with the stars perk of extra money on 1 round ambush wins you can extend it further...it pails in comparison to the confusion strat though...
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Ah yeah they just throw money at you when they're confused right

I tend to avoid moves that don't have a high chance of connecting, something about my personality idk
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You can build a persona that can almost garuntee success. Confuse+ confuse chance passive + stagnant air.

Itll basically never fail. After that beef the luck stat and youre rolling in gill.

(Im the same as you tho. I had never found that strat on my own)
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Yeah if you stack all of that on a Fortune persona you're pretty much set. Pretty much always had Fortuna in my roster during my first run because her Lucky Punch set up works a ridiculously high percentage of the time.
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I got the credits after making the wrong choice/ratting out my friends in the dialogue in the interrogation room lol.. loaded the game again, made the right choice and 20 hours later still haven't beaten the game
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I got the credits after making the wrong choice/ratting out my friends in the dialogue in the interrogation room lol.. loaded the game again, made the right choice and 20 hours later still haven't beaten the game
That bit is so tense, thought I'd done it wrong even when it turned out I did it right. I made the same mistake in P4.


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FINALLY BEAT IT... longest god damn game.. but I'll forgive that. finished at 135 hours.. I usually have very little patience with games that have insanely long cutscenes/dialogue but I rarely found myself frustrated by this because I was so invested (though the Hawaii trip really started to get on my nerves)

10/10 5 stars.. best shit.. definitely missed out on a ton, only maxed 5 confidants i think, didn't even realize you could strengthen the twins, forgot they asked me for a persona or some shit and it was never mentioned again so yeah

i seriously don't understand why other RPGs can't figure out a combat system similar to this game.. no reason for turn based games to die when something so smooth and fun as this is easily possible.. love this game..
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POLL: Do YOU think the Phantom Thieves are just?

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I like the idea of what they were doing because my general feeling is that law enforcement/government/"society" doesn't do what it needs to do to deal with problems that could be simply solved. "Vigilante justice" also usually gets on the bad side of cops because they cant handle something doing their job better than them because they have small dicks or something. tbh, the reason I got so hooked by this game was after palace 1 where Kanoshida just confessed to sexually assaulting students and told everyone that he was worthless. It was like a fantasy... I see all these shitheads getting accused of sexual assault and they all either vehemently deny it or just say nothing. It was like a fetish porn watching him just admit to being as shitty as he was accused of.. so I thought that was really cool.
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I believe the Phantom Thieves are unjust.

They are essentially forcing people to think the way they want them to think. Its brainwashing. If these men are villians then they should use their powers to get evidence and seek convictions. There is no justice to their actions.

Persona 4's group was just. They were trying to find a killer. Detectives. And they exposed the truth when applicable and handled problems direct when they were the worlds only hope.

The Persona 5 cast never made an effort to seek justice when in all cases save 1 these were matters that could have been handed over to the police.
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circumventing an impotent system isnt justice. Batman for instance is not just. He's effective, but unjust.
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Akechi is just. Justice in fact. What a prick.

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Metaverse Akechi not so much. Still a prick though.


Phantom Thieves represent rebellion, Joker tried to do the right thing and had his entire future taken from him. Society won't allow them to be the good guys, everyone in power is corrupt so they take control back for themselves. They're anti-heroes through and through.

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Since you have to go to the bottom of Mementos to get to the last dungeon & since Mementos is optional up to that point, do you have to go through the entire thing in one game day if you hadn't gone through it?
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Old 11-03-2018, 09:59 AM   #217
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On the last day the twins are at the entrance and will heal you though so they make it reasonable
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I believe the Phantom Thieves are unjust.

They are essentially forcing people to think the way they want them to think. Its brainwashing. If these men are villians then they should use their powers to get evidence and seek convictions. There is no justice to their actions.

Persona 4's group was just. They were trying to find a killer. Detectives. And they exposed the truth when applicable and handled problems direct when they were the worlds only hope.

The Persona 5 cast never made an effort to seek justice when in all cases save 1 these were matters that could have been handed over to the police.
Is it the way they think though? The "distorted desires" are just presented to them, it's kinda unclear who the judge or morality is. Igor?
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In no reality is it them and in no reality are lobotomies just.
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Theyre literally removing free will from people they deem morally bankrupt. Thats a unilateral authority that is objectively unjust.
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And now Joker is dlc for Smash

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did anyone get the dancing game? It was kinda disappointing, most of the songs were remixes. Not worth $60...
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Thats how persona dancing always are. And those remixes are FIRE. Gotta get that OST
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Im not gojng to play it. I watched it on twitch some though...I NEED THAT OST
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Might even pick up some costume DLC. It's Christmas!
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DANCING GIVES A HOT REMIX OF P4S BATTLE THEME
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P4 battle theme probably the best of the three

Might check out some youtube and see what you get in each pack.
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Remix sounds like a Katamari track
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I'm only a few (in-game) days into NG+ Merciless, died three times in a row during the tutorial section (first battle after the save room is introduced) because I encountered a party of three Mandrake. Eventually the game decided to let me get away with facing two. Tough start. Lives up to the billing.
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Apparently I was only one book and a couple of dodgy clinical trials from maxing out my guts. Maxed my personality before Golden Week
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Lol cant wait til I clear my backlog after christmas so I can do my own ng+
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I'd actually recommend Merciless for NG+, once you get access to your old gear and can control your party members its actually pretty balanced. Jack Frost was just a fucking dick though with his Lucky Punch spam.
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lol I don't imagine I'll have much trouble even on Merciless. On my original playthrough I maxed every social link, stacked a ton of money and crafted every Persona other than the one you can't until NG+.
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Bought the costume pack since its on sale, P4 pack uses the boss music instead of Reach Out To The Truth, and while the dancing pack has a sweet remix it does make Joker look like a bit of a twat. Can't allow myself to run that costume in a palace


Morgana gets Aegis and Teddie costumes to add to the Sheep and a couple of other cool ones. Quite interested to see what
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Also early in the game there is a dialogue option that says you need max guts to select. So I went ahead and selected it this time...

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Makes absolutely no difference and they still completely ignore you and barge past. Such trolling.
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