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Old 01-21-2011, 02:39 PM   #2441
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Based on the number of lanes in a street or...
it just looks like a mismatch... your supposed to be in ny and everything looks like ur in cali. It just looks weird

when watching that video i thought of a guy running down the street in la and then i saw the cop cars and was like wtf?

and not just the streets but also the surrounding buildings
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:29 PM   #2442
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These look terrible just terrible, i hope im wrong though
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:15 PM   #2443
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it just looks like a mismatch... your supposed to be in ny and everything looks like ur in cali. It just looks weird

when watching that video i thought of a guy running down the street in la and then i saw the cop cars and was like wtf?

and not just the streets but also the surrounding buildings
Makes no difference to someone who isn't familiar with the look/architecture of either city.
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:21 PM   #2444
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Y'know, this Spider-Man film and this X-Men film, this is the first time I've ever NOT been excited about a Marvel movie.

I was even pumped for Elektra (which I enjoyed). But these films have really done nothing for me.

Right now, I literally cream myself over any updates on Thor, Captain America and the Avengers, and then we get X-Men and Spidey pics etc and I'm just like 'urgh'.

No doubt I'll see them in the cinema, buy the DVD for the collection, and probably enjoy the films anyway (hey, I enjoyed Elektra!!!), but right now, hype, excitement, anticipation etc. It's not there.
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:31 PM   #2445
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I get that vibe, too. You know what I think it is (well for me anyway)? I'm just tired of the old Sony-owned/Fox-owned posture of Spidey and X-Men. What's going on with the Avengers is 100% more interesting to me and I feel like I'm 'witnessing' something before my eyes. Spidey reboot and X-Men 0 just seem so... Hollywood by comparison. They're even created for the same reasons, some perceived failure of the last trilogy finales, and they wanna start over like that's always a better idea.

But yeah mostly it's the whole Spidey's over here, X-Men's over there thing. I remember even saying if they're going for these kinds of reboots Marvel should just reacquire them and assimilate them in the new movie-verse. It doesn't need to be cross-over mania at the start - but imagine a post-credits scene after Avengers where Sam Jackson is explaining the superteam to a shadowy figure sitting across from him. The camera pans and we see Hugh Jackman smoking a cigar and turning the offer down, "I already have a team." Sam would be like, "They won't be enough for what's coming." Cut to black. Boom. There you go. More hype than Magneto in that silly helmet above, I tell you what.

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Old 01-21-2011, 06:03 PM   #2446
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That looks like an action figure.
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Old 01-21-2011, 06:38 PM   #2448
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I'm assuming it'll look better on film with the proper lighting and everything. And yeah, that does look a little goofy, but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that it's not a very Spidey-like pose.
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Old 01-21-2011, 06:39 PM   #2449
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They could have at least adopted Ben Reily's Spidey suit (which may or may not have raised drama). That suit above just isn't a good suit, as far as all the suits compared goes.
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Old 01-21-2011, 06:45 PM   #2450
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The design on the gloves seem to allude to a much cooler suit, but what we have is something seemingly unfinished. Look at the red that usually connects the glove and shoulder; why is it thinned out like that? They repeat this with the leg lining and it doesn't look attractive. And the red on the chest kinda falls down the midsection to nowhere, looking very awky without a 'belt' area.

I'm not one of those clowns who hate any change to superhero suits, I was probably the only guy who embraced the Superman Returns suit right off the bat, but this Spidey suit is rubbing me the wrong way. I don't think it looked good on paper either.

But yeah good lighting, poses, and and angles can make anything look great.
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I'm not sure better is the right word...
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:57 PM   #2452
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:01 PM   #2453
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:23 PM   #2454
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:28 PM   #2455
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I like the new Spidey suit. I know this is stupid to say about a superhero flick, but it looks more realistic to me. Like the smaller eyes too.
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:26 AM   #2457
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I went on Superherohype.com and the fan boys are even ripping apart Caps costume. Haters gonna hate I guess.
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See now that's retarded. Caps costume is incredible.
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:37 AM   #2459
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Everything on this page traumatized me. Cap's suit is great, but that's on the page before.

Also, to respond to something being discussed earlier: Spider-Man seeming like it's in NYC is very important, I think.

The new Spidey suit really just looks awful. I know that's a stunt suit, and will look "better", but I really don't like the pattern or look at all.

In general I agree that I'm just not excited for Spidey or X-Men at all this time around. With Spidey, I have interest because I love the character and world so much.

But I'm also not too enthusiastic to see them revisit his origins and youth, and try to improve.
I have next to no interest in seeing another take on Ben & Mae or the Daily Bugle already.

X-Men I just don't know what to say about. I'm almost floored by how poor the pictures look.
It doesn't make any sense to me, since Matthew Vaughn is such a talented guy and so keen on the material. I hope he really brings it together and makes a good movie, but just based on all of the creative and visual decisions I've seen so far, I'm stumped.
He was pretty vocal about how horrible he thought X3 was, so he's all-in here.

I didn't have high hopes for another X-Men movie at all, after X3 and Wolverine, but I thought Mathew Vaughn would at least provide some glimmer of hope
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Personally I loved Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3. Both films made up for perfect trilogys. Wolverine was awesome too, but for reason I tend not to think of that as a part of the X-Men trilogy.

Anyways, despite both movies third outings getting shit loads of criticisms, I still think they were great, and don't see why they've had to reboot both series so soon.

Like Jeritron said, now we have to go through Ben Parkers death again, the spider bite, the wrestling scenes etc. Likewise with X-Men, which is just kind of a huge clusterfuck anyway, and I'm assuming Magneto will be the bad guy again? I mean after X-Men 3 surely they could have used any excuse to bring the team back again, and then faced against someone like Apocalypse.

Both film series in my opinion were perfectly cast. Especially X-Men. Now they've gone and thrown in all these youngsters whom I've never heard of, but are doubt rising up the ranks with Twilight or whatever those dancing movies are called.

Seriously, I'll get the DVDs regardless coz I'm a comic freak, and to be fair once I've seen the films I'll probably enjoy them (I am very easily amused with films), but right now I don't give a fuck about either of these films. And I've yet to see a single photo that has impressed me.
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Ridiculously fake, come on.

Also original webshooters confirmed, for spidey. Emma Stone let the cat out of the bag, and you can actually see them in that photo up there.

Sweet mechanical is awesome, I always hated the biological thing, the science nerd aspect of Peter Parker was sorely missing from the Raimi trilogy
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To be fair, the organic web shooters did make more sense.
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Organic shooters are way better. He gets bit by a radioactive spider, crawls on walls, gets spider-sense, 'kinda' super strength, crazy agility... and then he has to make his own web shooters? I mean in a comic book reality sort of way, you'd think shooting webs would be part of the package.
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The organic make sense but I prefer the science aspect of the web shooter. Peter inventing stuff was one the things that made him cool.
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He can still do that without having to make web shooters. I personally like the 'specialized suit' gimmick. He always had a 'middle-class Tony Stark' side about him. That's all good.

But organic webs ftw.
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But with web shooters he gets to go "I'm all out of web fluid!" every other time he fights a bad guy.
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But with web shooters he gets to go "I'm all out of web fluid!" every other time he fights a bad guy.
I kinda missed that forced drama. It kinda worked though and created some cool moments where Spidey had to figure out alternate ways to fight the guy.
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Organic shooters are way better. He gets bit by a radioactive spider, crawls on walls, gets spider-sense, 'kinda' super strength, crazy agility... and then he has to make his own web shooters? I mean in a comic book reality sort of way, you'd think shooting webs would be part of the package.
I don't know everything you listed was essentially enhancements to his human body whereas web shooters would require glands to grow and shit which is on a whole different level.Either or are fine, I just like the science based cause to me it's cooler and fits with Parker's character.
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Fine, he grows glands. Is that really a different level? Like... after Peter would tell you about climbing walls and his spider-sense and stronger body, would you hear about the web glands and go, "Wait what!? Now that's crazy!" C'mon.
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I kinda missed that forced drama. It kinda worked though and created some cool moments where Spidey had to figure out alternate ways to fight the guy.
Yeah, it isn't bad. I'm just poking fun at the 90s cartoon where he seemed to always run out of web fluid at alarming rates and at the most inconvenient times.
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How would you describe First Class to the uninitiated?

MATTHEW VAUGHN: The best way of describing it is X-Men meets Bond, with a little bit of Thirteen Days thrown in for good measure. It’s set in the ’60s, and I basically molded a young Magneto on a young Sean Connery. He’s the ultimate spy — imagine Bond, but with superpowers.

If Magneto is Bond, then what about Charles Xavier?

You’re seeing Xavier become a professor. For me, Magneto is the good guy in the film, but he’s a sort of a good bad guy. He literally kicks off the movie, and Xavier goes along on the ride trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and trying to persuade Erik that you don’t have to kill everyone.

I know you’re under tight restrictions about what you can reveal regarding the plot, but, well, what else can you say?

In the beginning of the film, no one knows that mutants exist, and all the mutants don’t know that each other exist. They’re all in hiding. Kevin Bacon plays a very megalomaniac mutant [Sebastian Shaw] who decides that he can take over the world and that mutants are the future. Erik and Charles then meet each other and hook up with the CIA to try and prevent World War III. You find out everything about what went on between Erik and Charles.

And there are flashbacks with Erik and Charles as young children?

They’re not flashbacks — we start there. It starts in 1942, and then works its way up to 1962.

Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans?

Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.

Is the movie related at all to the First Class comics?

Not really. There are a lot of nods to the X-Men world and the X-Men movies, but it’s definitely its own beast.

You were going to direct X-Men: The Last Stand and then dropped out two months before filming started. The story is that you thought you weren’t going to have enough time to see your vision through…

That’s true. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, I probably would have had more time then than I do now, which is highly ironic. But I also have more experience now than I did then. And I had no idea how big-budget filmmaking worked, so I was just applying small-budget independent-style logic to the wrong equation. And when I saw the film, I realized that Fox would have given me all the tools I needed. I was just stupid enough not to take them. But we both decided to cross the bridge together again. I definitely had burned a bridge. But they asked, so we met and we both kissed and made up and went off to make the film.

How did you settle on James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto, respectively?

Professor X is a very hard character to cast. Out of all the characters, he’s the dullest if you really think about it. He’ll be in a wheelchair eventually, and he’s sort of a sanctimonious preacher half of the time. Patrick Stewart brought so much to that role, and I needed to get an actor who could do the same — who could give him a fourth dimension that’d make him sparkle. James was literally at the top of the list, and he said yes, so I got my first actor very quickly.

Magneto was a juicier role. I’ve been watching Fassbender for a long time, and I knew the guy was going to pop as a movie star. He read it and knocked it out of the park, and the rest of the cast just fell in around them. What makes me laugh is, by this time next year, half of my cast is going to be extremely popular and famous. Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop. Nicholas Hoult [i.e. Hank McCoy/Beast] definitely is. People are going to find Kevin Bacon a revelation, and January Jones [i.e. Emma Frost] has got huge star potential.

And, please, one more story tease?

It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it.
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Twilight girls will like it. Does not sound good.

Also, I want to see a pic of Bacon as Shaw really bad.
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There's some Bacon action in the last few pages somewhere.
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What?

That can't be, been reading this thread regularly recently.

And when I google Kevin Bacon Sebastian Shaw I only get pics comparing Bacon to the comic book Sebastian Shaw.
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Oh, ok. Found it, his haircut looks stupid.

Just looks like Bacon, not Sebastian Shaw.
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Which works for me.
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Fine, he grows glands. Is that really a different level? Like... after Peter would tell you about climbing walls and his spider-sense and stronger body, would you hear about the web glands and go, "Wait what!? Now that's crazy!" C'mon.
But if he grew glands why did he not grow other spider features, why did his eyes stay the same etc...
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...It says Lara should stop nitpicking a perfectly fine retcon. Page 1, actually.
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