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Old 04-24-2016, 10:40 PM   #24961
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Sick. Always liked MVP. Don't love him, but the guy is pretty good and seems like a rad individual.
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:49 PM   #24962
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Would you like to see the Zeb Colter pairing re-visited, or is that done and dusted now?

Hell no. They can reunite and claim they are going to "Make WWE Great again!" and do The Donald Trump thing. It would still work. Still never forget how I was called racist for cheering Swagger
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:57 PM   #24963
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Holy shit, Trump Supporter Swagger would be amazing.
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:57 PM   #24964
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In fact, I motion for him to be made the United States Champion immediately.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:00 PM   #24965
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The WWE have really flattened Sheamus and Del Rio, haven't they? I have no clue where they go with these guys from here. I imagine the League of Nations will be feuding soon and Rusev will be a babyface, but I'm not sure how much momentum he will really get from beating Sheamus and Del Rio.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:05 PM   #24966
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Holy shit, Trump Supporter Swagger would be amazing.

They wouldn't even have to officially support Trump, just use his mannerisms and shit he says. He has history in WWE and with Vince, they could really build SOMETHING out of it and it would be different.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:05 PM   #24967
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I've got an odd feeling that if they do a King of the Ring tournament this year, Rusev wins it and calls himself "Rusev the Great."
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:06 PM   #24968
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They wouldn't even have to officially support Trump, just use his mannerisms and shit he says. He has history in WWE and with Vince, they could really build SOMETHING out of it and it would be different.
Oh yeah, you wouldn't actually mention Trump, but the obvious connotations would be there.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:06 PM   #24969
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Swagger would probably just the hold the title until Cena gets back, but it's something for the guy.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:12 PM   #24970
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Random WrestleMania 33 thought: I think we might get Triple H vs. Shinsuke Nakamura at Mania in Orlando. It seems ridiculous to not include Nakamura on the PPV, and with limited spots, I can see him being the opponent Triple H fights to get.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:15 PM   #24971
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:18 PM   #24972
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Random WrestleMania 33 thought: I think we might get Triple H vs. Shinsuke Nakamura at Mania in Orlando. It seems ridiculous to not include Nakamura on the PPV, and with limited spots, I can see him being the opponent Triple H fights to get.
Wouldn't be a bad match. Brock vs Nakumara really sounds good though. Think I read some where they were both added to a Hawaii show that might be a network special so might get it befor WM.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:24 PM   #24973
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Hmm. I don't see that working for the casual fan, just visually. Nakamura feels too "new." I know they have wrestled before, but I just can't see the WWE going that route. And I think Triple H's ego is going to put him in there with someone that is going to have eyeballs on them that he gets to "make." My mind went to AJ first, then to Balor, and then I thought "Of course it's going to be Nakamura."

I see Brock around the title at Mania. I'd love to see the Shield Triple Threat, but I have a feeling they're going to go in with Reigns and try and give the Reigns vs. Brock match a conclusion. The only other thing really for Brock is Orton, and I'm not sure how keen Orton would be on that match, or just how much genuine interest there is in it. That's not a knock on them, but it feels like Babyface Orton is someone you don't want to see get punched in the head repeatedly by Brock, and Heel Orton isn't much of a threat once he's destroyed by Brock. There's not much of a "rub" gained by either man. I dunno, never been high on that match just due to how I see them matching up chemistry-wise.

The time for Cena vs. Taker came and went, I feel, but I'm sure they're going to try and do whatever they can to make sure it happens. That leaves Rollins and Ambrose without opponents. I can see them automatically being matched up. Maybe some sort of "ultimate rivalries" tag team match? Whoever the heels are align to face whoever the babies are. Maybe Vince, Shane or Triple H do something sadistic and put Owens & Zayn on the same side against Ambrose & Rollins? A "fuck you, this is WrestleMania, so we know how hard you'll fight even though you hate your partners" sort of thing. Orton is left without an opponent then, so I can see him being put with AJ Styles, who seems the next highest up. As I said in another thread, I can see The Wyatt Family and The Balor Club facing off in a six-man for the ages. You're probably going to repeat you 7 guy Ladder Match for the IC Title to build that "tradition." I imagine this is where Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler, Adrian Neville, Kalisto and Del Rio end up. There's two more spots, and I can see them giving one to Sheamus since he's a featured guy. Rusev would be the next most important guy, but I see him being given Battle Royal shine, alongside Big Show, Baron Corbin and Samoa Joe. Apollo Crews for the Ladder Match, actually. Enzo & Cass could be given shine on the Kickoff Show to hype people up, win a tag team match, then appear in the Battle Royal. The Usos will probably be in there too, given that they haven't been featured on the main card yet. I thought they might put them against Big Show & Kane in a sort of "nightmare becomes reality" moment to try and make them look like hoss-beating giant killers, but I don't see them featuring that main card. Maybe on the RAW After Mania.

Obviously a lot can happen between now and then, but those are my current standing predictions.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:26 PM   #24974
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Ambrose beats Jericho, Reigns beats Styles, The Club attacks Styles, AJ calls in Finn Balor to help at Extreme Rules. Jericho goes on to bitch about how he's the greatest IC Champion of all-time and challenges Cesaro. Ambrose is confused as Reigns selling out, which leads to him being put into the title picture after cutting some promos on how Reigns' turn has ripped his heart out. Here is my hopeful Extreme Rules card:

* Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose for the WWE World Title (Extreme Rules?)
* The Roman Empire vs. AJ Styles & Finn Balor
* Cesaro vs. Chris Jericho for the Intercontinental Title
* Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch (vs. Sasha Banks?) in a Ladder Match for the Women's Title
* The New Day vs. Enzo & Cass for the Tag Team Titles

And I've got a feeling there might be some variation on Shane McMahon vs. Triple H.
I like it. Unfortunately that means WWE won't do it... Honestly I do think they'll turn on Styles to cost him the match, but I don't think Roman will be involved in any way, shape, or form. Then at Extreme Rules we'll probably get stuck with Roman vs Sheamus or some other nonsense that makes no sense.

Also I don't feel like Enzo and Cass are getting the win in the tournament either. With New Day being face now they're almost certainly going to throw the Vaudevillans at them, likely to get eaten in the process.

I hope I'm wrong, but given the current product I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:38 PM   #24975
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So you'd get:

* Reigns vs. Brock for the World Title
* Taker vs. Cena
* Triple H vs. Nakamura
* Charlotte vs. Sasha vs. Becky vs. Bayley for the Women's Title
* Andre Battle Royal
* Owens & Zayn vs. Ambrose & Rollins (possibly a 4-Way for the US Title?)
* Orton vs. Styles
* The Wyatts vs. The Balor Club
* Ladder Match for the IC Title: Cesaro vs. Ziggler vs. Neville vs. Kalisto vs. Sheamus vs. Del Rio vs. Crews
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:40 PM   #24976
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I like it. Unfortunately that means WWE won't do it... Honestly I do think they'll turn on Styles to cost him the match, but I don't think Roman will be involved in any way, shape, or form. Then at Extreme Rules we'll probably get stuck with Roman vs Sheamus or some other nonsense that makes no sense.

Also I don't feel like Enzo and Cass are getting the win in the tournament either. With New Day being face now they're almost certainly going to throw the Vaudevillans at them, likely to get eaten in the process.

I hope I'm wrong, but given the current product I'm not holding my breath.
Honestly, I can see that. I think the turn might come after the match, actually. Reigns beats Styles clean, and The Good Brothers attack because out of disappointment because AJ didn't want their help.
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I could honestly see them putting Jericho over Ambrose at Payback somehow in order to build him up for a title shot. Either that or some sort of Triple Threat against Jericho and Ambrose for the title at Extreme Rules.
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:50 AM   #24978
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Based on recent tapings, Season 3 might end up as a curse for Lucha Underground just in terms of people getting hurt.

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Ivelisse, Mantanza, and Angelico all got seriously injured during tapings. Ivelisse from the last set of tapings and the other two guys from the current set.

Plus Aero Star got hurt in their first live show tour last month separate from the tv tapings.
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Not to be cynical, but with some of their recent politics, these injuries and such, I can see a huge exodus from Lucha Underground soon, and the company kind of being left high and dry. I think it will get a Season 4, but it wouldn't surprise me if they take it one season at a time after that.
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Not to be cynical, but with some of their recent politics, these injuries and such, I can see a huge exodus from Lucha Underground soon, and the company kind of being left high and dry. I think it will get a Season 4, but it wouldn't surprise me if they take it one season at a time after that.
Only if WWE raids them. The contracts appear to be for 7 seasons, but if there's no news of it being renewed by the end of the final set of tapings, they can get out of their contracts pretty easy which is why there were season 1 leavers. Virtually all of the season 2 cast should be back for season 3.

It's probably a good gig, because I think they do 4 weeks of TV in a night, so the seasons filming doesn't last long other than doing backstage stuff and pickups, then they're free to work anywhere else in the meantime.

Not sure what is meant by politics though. I've not been following the backstage stuff too much recently.
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Apparently there are a few people disgruntled at MVP being let go for trying to get some publicity for the company, and a few guys want out to pursue other things, but the company's got them locked down with the 7 season stuff.
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Just like NXT has become the fed that Jim Cornette envisioned ROH to be, this Global Cruiserweight Series is probably going to tap into the thunder that Lucha Underground has and be a seasonal little show featuring high octane stuff. I can imagine guys like Pentagon, Jr., Drago, Fenix and Ricochet all ending up there eventually.
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Old 04-25-2016, 06:48 AM   #24983
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Apparently there are a few people disgruntled at MVP being let go for trying to get some publicity for the company, and a few guys want out to pursue other things, but the company's got them locked down with the 7 season stuff.
Ah yeah, did some googling and just read about the MVP stuff. That's a bummer, still a fan of his and didn't even know he'd signed.

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Just like NXT has become the fed that Jim Cornette envisioned ROH to be, this Global Cruiserweight Series is probably going to tap into the thunder that Lucha Underground has and be a seasonal little show featuring high octane stuff. I can imagine guys like Pentagon, Jr., Drago, Fenix and Ricochet all ending up there eventually.
I dunno, I think it will be a great show for the in ring matches and I can't wait to watch it, but I've ended up watching Lucha for the storylines as much as the in ring product. I just love that everything has progression, even if it is this silly supernatural thing.
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Yeah, I think he was doing agent stuff. Apparently Paul London works there too.
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Old 04-25-2016, 06:51 AM   #24985
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I'm curious to see the format this GCS takes. I doubt it will just be tournament match, tournament match, tournament match, tournament match, etc. I imagine guys that lose will stick around and compete in tag team bouts, and get involved in storylines as they look for redemption and that sort of thing.
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Curious to see how the WWE presents Zack Sabre, Jr. too.
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Random thought: People might think I'm insane and that the man should never turn heel, but if he does I see Sami Zayn being insanely good in the role. One of the best "actors" on the roster.
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The WWE have really flattened Sheamus and Del Rio, haven't they? I have no clue where they go with these guys from here. I imagine the League of Nations will be feuding soon and Rusev will be a babyface, but I'm not sure how much momentum he will really get from beating Sheamus and Del Rio.
A video just got posted on WWE.com with Del Rio saying that the League of Nations was now disbanded. WWE couldn't even be bothered to give them an on-screen breakup to try to do anything with it.

Good thing they got the win at WrestleMania, then.
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The entire situation with Del Rio has been completely baffling, honestly. He's a great wrestler but not once since he returned have I gotten the impression that he actually gives a shit.

He's basically just cashing in on the shitload of money WWE gave him to return and is riding out his last year or so before retirement onc ruise control.
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After how they treated him before I don't blame him for a second.
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I don't either. I'd be doing the same thing. I'm more just baffled that WWE even bothered to make the investment. They had to have known what they'd be getting.
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as "good" as he is, he's never really done anything before other than go through the motions, so I don't know how they expected anything different. He's Mexican Orton.
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:41 PM   #24995
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His time off as Alberto El Patron was way better than anything WWE has done with him since.
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:42 PM   #24996
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As for the League of Nations...just toss it on to the ever growing pile of evidence that WWE really have no idea how to do any long-term planning for anything other than the main event scene, and even that is highly suspect. Everything and everyone in the midcard has been stopped and started so much that it's just impossible to care about any of it.
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TBH though RAW has been much better the past couple of weeks. I ignored last week's raw but I think we're gonna have a solid few weeks of live raw before we go back through the motions and I stop watching again
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As for the League of Nations...just toss it on to the ever growing pile of evidence that WWE really have no idea how to do any long-term planning for anything other than the main event scene, and even that is highly suspect. Everything and everyone in the midcard has been stopped and started so much that it's just impossible to care about any of it.
WWE makes a ton of money on their TV rights fees so I don't think they are concerned.
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So how long before Del Rio goes after Kalisto for the US title?
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