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Old 05-15-2016, 07:14 PM   #25521
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I kind of miss Trevor Murdoch a lot. The guy is still only 35 years old. I mean, that's no spring chicken, but he's still got some years left for a potential run somewhere, whether it be as a singles act or as part of a team/faction. I'd be extremely happy to see Murdoch given another run as a henchman to Chris Jericho or a member of The Wyatt Family. Why do they all need to be huge monsters?

I got thinking about him, because I saw Jax Dane's name pop up somewhere and I had no clue what he actually looked like, so I Google imaged and the guy and he's got that truck driver look. A guy with a Dane association is Rob Conway (former NWA World Tag Team Champions). Conway always had a good reputation for being a good guy to work with, a professional attitude, and despite being 41, he still looks like he's in good shape. Apparently the WWE did offer him a trainer position, but he still feels like he has something to offer in the ring. Why not sign Conway and give him sort of a "he's a multi-time champion that has been training and is ready to make one last run" sort of thing.

Hell, sign both Murdoch and Conway and put them together as a tag team. Murdoch is a guy with an...unusual physique, and Conway looks like he was carved out of granite. There's an interesting dichotomy there and there could be something charming about two guys who had tag team success with two very different partners in the past. Even if it were just a run in NXT to work with younger guys.

Murdoch singing Conway's theme could be comedy gold too. "Just look at him."
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:15 PM   #25522
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If they do eventually do a brand split, pumping up RAW and SmackDown with veteran talent that still has something to give would definitely be a good way to pad things out. I'd love to see some older girls like Victoria be given another shot too.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:25 PM   #25523
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Johnny Jeter is still only 34 years old too.

Really had high hopes for Jeter. Here's a video of a match between him and former partner and friend, Matt Cappotelli:



Jeter would have been like 23 at the time.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:57 PM   #25524
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And of course I miss sexy Doug Basham back before the WWE got him to shave his head.

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Old 05-15-2016, 08:04 PM   #25525
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Chris Masters is only 33 years old. He's now a 14 year veteran. He's obviously got a passion for wrestling, as he's still doing it after all this time. The guy was finding himself just as he got fired. When you're looking for guys who look good? Fuck, why wouldn't you sign this guy back? I don't understand it.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:05 PM   #25526
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It actually looks like he's leaned down a lot too.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:07 PM   #25527
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When you're looking for Hispanic talents you could realistically get, and that always had a good relationship with the crowd, I don't know why you wouldn't make Carlito a reasonable offer. The guy's got a lot of know-how at this point. Put him with his brother and cousin and have them war with New Day. Hell, have Carlito spit apple in Shane's face and have them fight on a PPV.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:10 PM   #25528
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Interesting little factoid about Carlito: He's been the MWF Heavyweight Champion since sometime in 2013. That's the promotion owned by John Cena's dad.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:18 PM   #25529
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Here's a heel Rey Mysterio against Eddie Colon in the WWC circa 2002.



14 years ago, Primo would have been 19.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:20 PM   #25530
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:23 PM   #25531
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God dammit, she is perfect.

I hope that she and Sasha Banks form an alliance to battle Emma & Dana, but then they have a #1 Contender's Match and Becky wins. Sasha backs up Becky in the match, because "she's the better woman right now," but then throws the towel in for Becky when she's in the Figure Eight, despite Becky not tapping. Sasha and Becky then start a vicious blood feud against each other.

It could all build to another Triple Threat at SummerSlam. Fuck, throw a ladder in there. Paige can feud with Charlotte in the meantime.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:24 PM   #25532
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HHH is/was right about Punk tbf. I'm a massive Punk fan but he really would not have faired well in Cena's position, at least not in the MAW/charity/publicity stuff.
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Probably not, but does a top wrestling star need to do that? I don't remember that being the case made against Triple H when he was constantly hitting Mick Foley over the head with steel chairs. That a top star needs to do the talk show circuit and all that is one of those modern expectations that you can't help but wonder might be a little forced.
Agree with both.

Punk probably would have burnt out a lot faster if he had to take on a Cena workload with public stuff on top of the regular wrestling stuff. Based on the past stories about him, he seemed to be the type that rather be left alone or relaxes whenever he's not wrestling.

Like a lot of things, modern WWE (Cena Era to present) tries way too hard to force a mainstream appeal instead of letting it occur naturally or the other way around. Makes sense they use Cena the most since for the past 10+ years, the company has revolved around him even if others were more popular in the mainstream. Even their charity stuff has a forced feeling when lots of times its either used to prevent Cena from getting booed or inflate their own PR image like with the Warrior Award.
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I think they need to do a double turn with Sasha/Becky. I mean, everyone cheers Sasha anyways, but she isn't actually "officially" a face or anything. Meanwhile, fans just don't seem to get into Becky as much as they should.

So do the double turn where Becky just snaps and turns into a badass submission machine (more than she is now), who is fed up with being overlooked, getting no respect, and the fans wanting nobody but Sasha Banks.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:32 PM   #25534
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I can understand the merit in that idea. I just love Becky too much right now. I think if they do the eventual heel turn, they should do it on Bayley after Bayley has won the Women's Title. Her motivation could be a combination of Bayley's popularity and success.
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Heel turns do seem to make almost any girl in WWE hotter though...
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:37 PM   #25536
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Cesaro chilling out at Mt. Rushmore in a suit because.
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I would do such unforgivable things to enjoy Lynch Time just once.
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From WWE's RAW page:

http://www.wwe.com/2016-05-16#full-detail-40005368

They are saying that "The Club" haven't won a match yet. Didn't they win the first 6-Man Tag on RAW two weeks ago?
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Hearing Becky talk about how much she admires Finn Balor I'm pretty certain they must have fucked at least once.
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Double teaming Becky with Finn Balor would actually be A-OK with me, come to think
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Hearing Becky talk about how much she admires Finn Balor I'm pretty certain they must have fucked at least once.
Don't say that. All the power to them, but my pristine fantasies cannot be shattered right now. I must cling to them like a Dis-Arm-Her.
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It'd make sense to play off their past relationship. I'm really feeling a Finn Balor heel alignment with The Club though. Becky Lynch as "The Balor Girl" would make sense, provided they have plenty of faces to put against her.

I'm surprised we haven't seen "Becky Club" t-shirts.
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Emma and Dana Brooke vs. Becky Lynch is pretty emphasized on the RAW preview. I'm not sure how accurate those things usually are, but there might still be time to get her and a partner (Sasha) vs. EnD on the PPV.
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I finally got around to checking the Women's Title history on WWE.com. I heard a bit online from people a bit confused about it, because there used to be a Women's Championship, so obviously it would tap into that lineage. But this new belt is more a continuation and "upgrade" of the Divas Championship, which was unified with the old Women's Championship under Layla.

For those curious, on WWE.com they list the current belt as the "WWE Women's Championship," whilst the old title is just the "Women's Championship." They seem to only officially put "WWE" in front of titles that they consider to be on the "World" level.

Eg. The United States Championship doesn't have a "WWE" in front of it; nor does the Intercontinental Championship, Cruiserweight Championship or Light Heavyweight Championship.
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Interestingly enough, WWE.com is still counting Randy Orton's World Heavyweight Title reign. He's up to 881 days and 19 hours. Orton to return with the Big Gold Belt?
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Where do you see that? That's hilarious if true.
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Agree with both.

Punk probably would have burnt out a lot faster if he had to take on a Cena workload with public stuff on top of the regular wrestling stuff. Based on the past stories about him, he seemed to be the type that rather be left alone or relaxes whenever he's not wrestling.

Like a lot of things, modern WWE (Cena Era to present) tries way too hard to force a mainstream appeal instead of letting it occur naturally or the other way around. Makes sense they use Cena the most since for the past 10+ years, the company has revolved around him even if others were more popular in the mainstream. Even their charity stuff has a forced feeling when lots of times its either used to prevent Cena from getting booed or inflate their own PR image like with the Warrior Award.
Yeah, this pretty much. I think they are very stuck in their own "WWE" world and have a hard time adjusting to anything outside of it. All of the PR and charity work is reactive and not proactive. They are very out of touch with reality.
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This would make Orton the longest reigning champion in the belt's history, almost doubling Hogan's longest reign in WCW.
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Would love for Cody Rhodes to beat Kalisto and bring back this belt:

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Think that they stretch Emma & Dana vs. Becky until past the PPV (Maybe she fights one of them one on one and loses at PPV) and then Bayley debuts to help her out after the PPV.
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Hmm. Would be an intriguing way to call Bayley up. She'd probably make a more natural partner for Becky than Sasha.
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They can almost definitely drag it out.
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Would love for Cody Rhodes to beat Kalisto and bring back this belt:

Do it and bring the five plate belt back not the three plate used in the latter half of WCW's existance.
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Chris Masters is only 33 years old. He's now a 14 year veteran. He's obviously got a passion for wrestling, as he's still doing it after all this time. The guy was finding himself just as he got fired. When you're looking for guys who look good? Fuck, why wouldn't you sign this guy back? I don't understand it.
Did you not think Masters was underwhelming any time he was with WWE? He also posted a photo of his completely bent spine x-ray, which I am sure would make WWE wary of signing someone.

As for a 41 year old Conway, hardly an option when they are letting guys like Sandow go to make room for new, young stars. He looked old when he was with the WWE 10 years ago, I can't imagine now.

I am totally with you on Murdoch, really liked him and Cade as a team with WWE and think he had a real retro look. Different sizes and styles are aorely misisng from WWE and I would def be up for giving him another run.

If Cody Rhodes wanted to honour his father, having a throw back, NWA style champ gimmick (trash talking, back raking, eye poking, rope for leverage etc...), having Murdoch as a lackey would be such a great look. Would love to see something like that.
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Chris Masters is only 33 years old. He's now a 14 year veteran. He's obviously got a passion for wrestling, as he's still doing it after all this time. The guy was finding himself just as he got fired. When you're looking for guys who look good? Fuck, why wouldn't you sign this guy back? I don't understand it.
One of my favorite lines from Punk's several "shoot" promos in 2011 was him acknowledging that Masters had spent a year and a half working his ass off to get better. I was glad to see him getting the recognition even after he was gone. He had been putting on consistently great matches on Superstars.
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Did you not think Masters was underwhelming any time he was with WWE? He also posted a photo of his completely bent spine x-ray, which I am sure would make WWE wary of signing someone.

As for a 41 year old Conway, hardly an option when they are letting guys like Sandow go to make room for new, young stars. He looked old when he was with the WWE 10 years ago, I can't imagine now.

I am totally with you on Murdoch, really liked him and Cade as a team with WWE and think he had a real retro look. Different sizes and styles are aorely misisng from WWE and I would def be up for giving him another run.

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I hated Masters up until his work with and against Carlito. You have to keep in mind that the guy was working for like three years until that point. He was green as all hell and his gimmick was this outdated throwback to the 80's. Bodies weren't cutting it in anything from the Attitude-era moving forward. They wanted personalities, and his was underdeveloped.

When he turned face, he actually clicked somewhat. He was still sold on commentary as being cocky and arrogant, but in the ring he had this really likable "coming onto his own" thing. His matches were good, and when he got a chance to show some personality on NXT Redemption, he was actually quite funny as a babyface cocky prick. No way did he flat-out suck by the end of it, and he looked like a million bucks. In my opinion, he's way better than Ryback.

Was that the reason Sandow was released? If age is a problem, why are R-Truth and Goldust still on the roster? Both members of The Ascension are older. Curtis Axel is older. Sin Cara is older. I honestly thought he was let go because of the old "creative has nothing for you" excuse, fueled by a measure of politics because the guy got over when he was supposed to fall back into line and be a waste they could re-push at their own leisure years down the track when they got their shit together. Age wasn't the problem with Sandow, it was a lack of intent behind his presence on the roster.

We're in agreement about the others, and fair points. Cody Rhodes with lackies would be a good thing. I'd love to see him take over Bo Dallas and Curtis Axel. Maybe...MAYBE have Heath Slater in there.
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One of my favorite lines from Punk's several "shoot" promos in 2011 was him acknowledging that Masters had spent a year and a half working his ass off to get better. I was glad to see him getting the recognition even after he was gone. He had been putting on consistently great matches on Superstars.
I honestly only have very, very vague memories of that. Was that the ice-cream promo? Good on Punk for mentioning it. The guy got really quite good.
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I'll always remember Chris Mordeski in the Global Force thing doing the "master lock"

You couldn't call him Chris Masters how the he'll can you use the name of the move
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He should have called it "The Mordetzki Conundrum."
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