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Old 05-27-2020, 11:33 PM   #2521
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What is The Ryback up to? They should sign The Ryback
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Old 05-28-2020, 01:04 AM   #2522
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I'm glad they signed Brian Cage from impact to break up the stream of talent released by WWE. They need to sign Tessa Blanchard away from impact later this summer when her contract expires
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Old 05-28-2020, 08:17 PM   #2524
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Based on newest estimates, this year's Double or Nothing show is rumored to have broken last year's number and set a new all-time PPV buys number in company history.
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Tessa is the best women's talent out there, but I'm not sure she is "friendly" enough to get a spot.
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Old 05-30-2020, 05:55 PM   #2526
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:33 PM   #2529
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I've watched the promo like 5 times. Tully is so good. It's a shame he's being wasted on Spears, who doesn't need a mouthpiece and has been booked as jobber to the stars and less.

If this leads to Tully turning on Spears with a new acquisition so be it.
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Old 06-01-2020, 11:09 PM   #2530
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That would probably be the best move. I’m not big on Spears. Not everyone can be a main eventer. He served a purpose being fed to Cody in a quick little feud and now he’s settled as a low mid-carder. Tully turning on him and pairing up with someone higher up the card could give Shawn another nice little feud for a bit. Though AEW seems like it might be heavy on mid-card faces.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:06 AM   #2531
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Tully would've been great for Cage. Hell, he'd have been awesome for FTR. The turn and debut comes with Tully telling Spears he's found the perfect partners, for him, not for Spears. FTR jumps Spears and beats the fuck out of him. Spears has to find a partner for Fight for the Fallen to try and avenge himself, and he and said partner get fed to FTR.
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Nonetheless, Tully is gonna be a great mouthpiece when he gets a talent worth his presence.
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Tully would've been great for Cage. Hell, he'd have been awesome for FTR. The turn and debut comes with Tully telling Spears he's found the perfect partners, for him, not for Spears. FTR jumps Spears and beats the fuck out of him. Spears has to find a partner for Fight for the Fallen to try and avenge himself, and he and said partner get fed to FTR.
Damn. Tully with FTR. Kinda love that thought.
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AEW put a good Tully promo on their social media. Why it wasn’t on their TV show, I don’t have a fucking clue. LolAEW. But it also looks like they are trying to Shawn Spears, Cody and FTR together as some sort of Fourtune Four group. LolAEW.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:56 PM   #2537
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A huge mistake companies make with these Horsemen groups -- except for maybe WWE when it comes to Evolution, which felt self-aware enough to be a faction about the "past, present and future" -- is that they they get four people that vaguely remind you of former Horsemen, and they want them to get over by lifting four fingers. That's instead of having four guys who can get the four fingers over.

If this were Jericho, MJF and FTR, then it might be something. You'd have Le Champion, the hottest rising heel and the best heel tag team. It makes perfect sense. The issue with that is besides Spears, who should be cast out of the group, you'd then probably have to turn the rest of the Inner Circle babyface, which is just too much.

UNLESS you did this as an all-out war between two sides. Tully Blanchard's heels against Arn Anderson's faces. The two old guys would be like generals. It kicks off with Tully wanting to re-live the past and Arn confronting him saying this can't be them anymore. Then a heel gets involved and hurts Arn. This puts him at direct odds with Cody. That's whoever you want to be his big analogue for the blow-off, which should come down to Jericho, MJF and FTR as the main heels. So it'd probably be best for MJF to take out Arn. Or Lance Archer to spin that along, with Tully purchasing his contract off Jake. Then you can move onto MJF later.

But then you'd need to book All Out to be "All Out War" and have two sides up and down the card. Because you can't have Cody going into War Games (or "All Out War" which would be better than "Blood & Guts") and have him on a team with, like, Dustin Rhodes, Shawn Spears and Darby Allin. Where are his buddies in The Elite? They should be helping out Cody. So where is the Inner Circle? It gets so messy, but you'd need to give people fixed programs that result in blow-off matches like the conclusion to the Invasion angle should have been. Dustin can be out of the War Games because he's now got a real personal feud with "Heartless" Shawn Spears, who wants to prove his overall worth to the cause.

That COULD work. You'd probably want the final main event to be the top four faces in the company against the top four heels. So that would be Cody, Jon Moxley and probably Adam Page and Kenny Omega if they're teaming. You could turn Omega and put him on the heel side and do a big singles with Page, but then you'd probably have The Bucks as the tag team, and that...doesn't have as much base.

So you get Mox, Cody, Page & Omega as the final faces representing Arn -- "The Elite Enforcers" or some shit -- going against Blanchard's Four Horsemen of the AEW Apocalypse -- Chris Jericho, Maxwell Jacob Friedman and Formerly the Revival, where the good guys would have to go over, which would mean whoever is your biggest babyface getting the submission from Chris Jericho.

Argh, it's just so complicated and I know they won't do it that way. It'll be campy Cody promos with him doing evil laughs and the Horsemen Revival actually getting cheered because who won't want to see Arn and Tully hug? And then you'll have Shawn Spears and FTR there just having matches with people who never find any unity.

I'd rather they just had Tully manage FTR, to be honest. I'm maybe seeing upside to Cody trusting Shawn Spears after everything, Shawn turning heel on Cody and then MJF leading the group. Eh. It just feels so TNA.
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Damn. Tully with FTR. Kinda love that thought.
It's a really great fit honestly. And I think Tully ripping Spears is planting the seeds to him leaving.
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I really can see this being Cody, Spears and FTR, guys.
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Ryback has always and will forever be thrash. He derailed Curtis Axel's career and then ruined his own. If he was worth anything he'd have done something by now.
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Ryback has always and will forever be thrash. He derailed Curtis Axel's career and then ruined his own. If he was worth anything he'd have done something by now.
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Shawn Spears is a giant fucking bore. Tully is being wasted on him.
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I agree with Gertner. Ryback was way better than Axel. And Tully should be paired with either FTR or another younger wrestler with upside. Wardlow would've been a good one of not paired with MJF. But someonelike that who needs the mouthpiece abs credibility Tully can lend.
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Currently not a Spears fan either. I hate to rip the guy because it’s obvious how passionate he is, but the guy just seems like such a “try-hard” that’s stuck in 2006.

With that being said, AEW obviously loves him and are giving him several chances to get over and stay over.

I think sometime within the next 3-4 months that Spears will be apart of a new heel stable led by Adam Page alongside FTR and managed by Tully.
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I am on the fence with Spears. He is endearing to me as a person but his character and booking has been pretty mild thus far minus the initial program with Cody. Seems like he is heating up again.

It's interesting how AEW just changes course on things that aren't working, or drops them quickly altogether. I feel like the majority of Shawn's programs have ended without any positive for anyone, again except the original Cody program.


Also whatever is going on with Bunny. She seems to have dropped Butcher and Blade and is now doing a new gimmick with QT Marshal, I think they are in a relationship in real life. It's intriguing because QT could be a great AEW made star that we all can pull for. Strong underdog and great fire from him in the ring.
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I'm not too hot on Darby right now. I was really into him the first few months of AEW on TNT but it's what I've seen off screen that has soured me. I was just searching for clips of what I'm talking about on youtube but I couldn't find it, could've been removed or I just don't know where to look. Once I saw some video he had produced, a weird reality show of sorts featuring someone who they said was a drug addict and needed money. So Darby would devise really fucked up things to make the guy do, for a little bit of money. I can't remember exactly what I saw but it was degrading and uncool and Darby reminded me of the prick Skateboard crew in my hometown when I was a kid, who were essentially just scummy dudes. I think I might have seen him make the dude eat some poop for money or something like that.

Also, while I really enjoy his matches, he he can come up with original spots given the opprotuity, I'm starting to feel that he is a bit of a one trick pony... Shoulder dives and coffin drops is really all he's got. Otherwise he's just taking big bumps and selling, which he does very well.

I'm just feeling quite critical of Darby you guys.
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Also I wanted to bring up another interesting talking point. From reading The Obsever over the last few months one take you can grab on the sly is that The Young Bucks are not "good for ratings". From what I've read it seems like The Bucks are one of the biggest ratings flops so far in AEW. Why is that? Personally I love The Bucks, I pop for'em like I'm watching Austin in the 90's. But there are a lot of people online who hate them (obvs). I wonder if they would draw better ratings if they were heel? Also what happens if they go bald soon like HBK? Will they stay "Young" Bucks? like HB"K"??

We all know he should have changed that acronym to HBM, the Heart Break Man. Maybe they will change their name to "The Big Bucks".
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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.
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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.
I herd that the amount of people who listen to Cornette's podcast is just below the amount that usually watch AEW. So yeah you are right, good move.
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Also I wanted to bring up another interesting talking point. From reading The Obsever over the last few months one take you can grab on the sly is that The Young Bucks are not "good for ratings". From what I've read it seems like The Bucks are one of the biggest ratings flops so far in AEW. Why is that? Personally I love The Bucks, I pop for'em like I'm watching Austin in the 90's. But there are a lot of people online who hate them (obvs). I wonder if they would draw better ratings if they were heel? Also what happens if they go bald soon like HBK? Will they stay "Young" Bucks? like HB"K"??

We all know he should have changed that acronym to HBM, the Heart Break Man. Maybe they will change their name to "The Big Bucks".
The ratings aren't really significantly moving one way or another. If there's a trend that an estimated 10k or whatever drop off during their matches, it's probably just one guy with a Nielsen box who really doesn't like them.
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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.
I watched their interview from Dynamite last week. Seems they’re basically doing a more subtle version of Cornette’s gimmick. They even mentioned FTR could stand for “follow the rules”, which is a clear as day nod to Cornette. That combined with this and... I kinda get the feeling hell is gonna freeze over and Cornette is going to work with AEW at some point. Not soon and maybe just as a one-shot thing but it just seems like we’re heading there.
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Cornette showingup to manage FTR against the Bucks would be amazing. Oh god the promos lol.
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That would make me want to tune in.
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I want Cornette. But I don't see Tony bending over for it.
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I don’t think it would be so much Tony “bending over” for it as Kenny Omega.
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i wonder if they are working cornette, i can't belive that ftr was not in on 2016 bucks cody thing. they responded like they were. if fdr did not want it they could have pm'ed the bucks and say stop. i like the short term deal though so ftr can go to other places like roh and impact.
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Hearing Cornette say his hatred of The Bucks is purely professional was... interesting.
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IMO it just seemed like he was going out of his way to help FTR. I don't think they were working him. I mean - they were working - just in unison with one another. Cornette might not enjoy the Bucks or Omega, but would likely want a team that represents a form of wrestling he respects to have all the momentum possible.

And, while FTR probably gets along perfectly well with the Bucks and Omega, they're also southern boys who I'm guessing grew up on Jim Cornette. So, they were probably marking the fuck out, and had no problem with Jim heeling on the AEW VPs not named Cody.
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It also further sells what will eventually be a big marquee tag match for AEW. The whole handshake deal is whatever. I think they'd be great in New Japan when they get going again but I can they shouldn't have an issue working Japan, Mexico and the states if they're with AEW.
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