02-19-2021, 12:59 PM | #2681 |
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WWE came out of the gate using Raw and Smackdown to promote NXT, putting NXT titles on main roster stars and included them in a brand war on the main roster and ultimately put NXT OVER Raw and Smackdown in the brand war. AEW had YouTube and the indies. Who exactly had the advantage of a built-in audience?
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02-19-2021, 01:25 PM | #2682 |
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AEW had all the New Japan fans. Look at how many bought Wrestle Kingdom
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02-19-2021, 01:46 PM | #2683 |
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Okay. Add New Japan to that “built-in audience” I mentioned above. That doesn’t really change anything. NXT had Raw and Smackdown. They still had the advantage. By quite a fuckton.
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02-19-2021, 04:00 PM | #2684 |
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Neither show should be bragging about 700,000ish viewers. The difference is for the most part, NXT doesn't. Tony Khan on the other hand is on twitter thanking fans for watching all the time. It trickles down from him, and you get advanced aged announcers and wrestlers also bragging about it.
Chris Jericho and Jim Ross have been on wrestling shows that have drawn over 5 million viewers a bunch of times. They shouldn't be making such a big deal over 700,000 viewers, but they can't help themselves at this point in their careers, trying to seem relevant. Last edited by xrodmuc316; 02-19-2021 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Weird autocorrect for relevant |
02-19-2021, 08:35 PM | #2685 |
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02-19-2021, 08:37 PM | #2686 |
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WWE fanboys just talking in circles. Leave them alone. Support them if they need it. It’s dark out there man.
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02-19-2021, 10:40 PM | #2687 |
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02-20-2021, 11:54 AM | #2688 |
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2.072 for SD this week
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02-20-2021, 06:11 PM | #2689 | |
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WWE’s promotion of NXT has been very quiet. I’ve seen that lobbed as a criticism of them, but it’s obviously intentional. This is why BigCrippyZ calls me a cocksucker. But if the WWE wanted NXT to be bigger, they would make it bigger. Daniel Bryan would be wrestling on there. They’d probably have sent AJ Styles. You’d have Rey Mysterio vs. Ricochet. It isn’t hard to do any of those things. But NXT is just there to niche AEW and reaffirm the main shows’ value to networks. And it’s succeeding. I’d agree with that. It is the third show WWE produces in a week, obviously less of a priority than Raw or SmackDown. 700k for a primary show is worse than 700k for an auxiliary show. |
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02-23-2021, 04:49 PM | #2690 |
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1.89 million for RAW this week, a nice bump from Miz winning the title
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02-23-2021, 08:12 PM | #2691 |
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1.89? lol is this normal now ? That is about the same or worse then they were in shitty 95
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02-25-2021, 04:22 PM | #2692 |
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Fox News still not in the top 25 in the post-Trump era
AEW - 831k NXT - 734k |
02-25-2021, 04:42 PM | #2693 |
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Lol they add another high priced ex WWE and again:no change.
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02-26-2021, 01:21 AM | #2694 |
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Lol, 831k with the biggest signing they are likely to ever get. Cue The Price is Right loser horn. Oh well, they get what they deserve. *farts*
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02-26-2021, 04:20 AM | #2695 |
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Lolllllllllllllll
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02-26-2021, 05:34 AM | #2696 |
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Do you think TNT cares that much as long as the show isn't losing viewers? The head-to-head is a WWE show (not a main one, but still) and AEW usually "wins." Network has to see that as a positive, right?
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02-26-2021, 09:41 AM | #2697 |
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I don't think TNT is comparing AEW ratings to WWE outside of NXT. AEW consistently beats or comes 2nd to every non news show on Wednesday nights. They are doing great. It takes time to build an audience, obviously AEW has been in or around the same numbers since the beginning but as the roster and stories evolve, so will the ratings. For better or worse. WCW didn't "compete" with WWF for about 6 years until they finally overtook them in brand recognition and ratings. I think being on TNT is a better station for audience growth than WWE which has proved to decline massively over the years. AEW has maintained their audience from the beginning where WWE in the past year alone has lost a significant portion of theirs, as they have every year for the last 20 years.
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02-26-2021, 09:47 AM | #2698 |
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With that said obviously WWE is banking more money than ever on their tv deals because the state of cable tv is shuddering in the wake of streaming services as viewers are escaping the chains of cable subscription service in droves. In five years can we imagine what the torrential waters in the sea of tv viewership will look like? Radio was once king, then over the air, then satellite, then cable, then the cords were cut and now we have a monthly announcement of the next over the top service for programming. Really what will be the place for live tv in 5 years?
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02-26-2021, 09:49 AM | #2699 |
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This thread is cancer.
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02-26-2021, 12:16 PM | #2700 |
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TNT doesn't care how much of his daddy's money Tony Khan blows through, and evidently neither does Shad himself.
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02-26-2021, 05:13 PM | #2701 |
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TNT only cares about how much ad revenue it can scoop in the dying days of cable. All this talk about the specific numbers and key demos is frivolous bullshit. What matters is how much you can charge someone to sell eyeglasses and viagra to whatever cable audience is left. Those numbers aren’t reported to charlatans like Meltzer.
The issue with AEW and its fans is that they are literally some of the worst people in the world. Especially from a marketing perspective. They’re fat, white, nerdy, unattractive cunts who are only interested in wrestling and pizza. |
02-26-2021, 08:06 PM | #2702 |
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It's so true.
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02-27-2021, 05:48 PM | #2704 |
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I appreciate it’s probably in jest, but AEW fans should not be acting like the cool kids in the room.
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02-27-2021, 06:09 PM | #2705 |
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02-27-2021, 06:36 PM | #2706 |
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Vito is a giant fucking pussy with poor reading/comprehension skills. This thread would hurt his feelings, confuse him, then hurt his feelings again.
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03-01-2021, 01:33 PM | #2707 |
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03-11-2021, 04:48 PM | #2708 |
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AEW 743,000
NXT 691,000 Keep wasting money on has been athletes and wrestlers AEW. It means nothing. Concentrate on what you have. |
03-11-2021, 04:49 PM | #2709 |
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Pretty disappointing number tbh!!!
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03-11-2021, 05:06 PM | #2710 |
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I locked this thread due to Noid and Xrod's toxicity and it's back...
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03-11-2021, 05:19 PM | #2711 |
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I watch Dynamite live through ATT TV Now.
Are those numbers factored in? How about for those who watch with Hulu’s live TV plan? |
03-11-2021, 05:23 PM | #2712 |
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03-11-2021, 05:24 PM | #2713 |
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I guess the Revolution PPV or online reaction left some fana behind.
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03-11-2021, 05:28 PM | #2714 |
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I haven't watched yet. I'm sorry for tanking the show, everyone.
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03-11-2021, 05:29 PM | #2715 |
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03-11-2021, 05:29 PM | #2716 |
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03-11-2021, 05:29 PM | #2717 |
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03-11-2021, 05:31 PM | #2718 |
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03-11-2021, 05:34 PM | #2719 |
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NXT also put on a great show from what I've read
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03-11-2021, 05:49 PM | #2720 |
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NXT sux
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