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Old 02-10-2011, 06:02 AM   #2721
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I read the issue Johnny dies. He goes out like a champ, and it's very well done. Though it should be noted, it doesn't actually show him dying. I can see him coming back a while from now.
You say that as if it's possible he won't come back.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:06 PM   #2722
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:14 PM   #2723
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Better than I expected to be honest. We shall see.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:18 PM   #2724
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So this movie is related to the 3 X-men movies?
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:23 PM   #2725
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Doesn't look too terrible, but not really tingling with anticipation.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:05 PM   #2726
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Gotta admit, looks watchable. Continuity gaffs still rub me wrong, I'll wait for more coverage.
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This is a prequel?
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:36 PM   #2728
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damn... actually looks kinda cool
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:09 PM   #2729
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First Class looks better than those dumb pics we had before.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:16 PM   #2730
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The slow, heavy rock track that's all the rage with trailers these days helps a bit too.
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:21 AM   #2731
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So, Angel has dragonfly wings instead of "angel" wings...
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:22 AM   #2732
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She's fucking pretty, though.

But they should seriously call her Pixie.
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:49 AM   #2733
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Is that an alternate Bay of Pigs invasion with the X-Men involved?
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:22 AM   #2734
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So, Angel has dragonfly wings instead of "angel" wings...
I thought that was wasp?
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:55 AM   #2735
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Wasp isn't a mutant.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:22 AM   #2736
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:30 AM   #2737
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So, Angel has dragonfly wings instead of "angel" wings...
For the last !@#$%ing time, it's based on a different angel.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:32 AM   #2738
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Wasp isn't a mutant.
She is in the ultimate universe. And they seem to like to mix and match 616 and ultimate un these movies.
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For the last !@#$%ing time, it's based on a different angel.
So I finally went and wiki'd her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Salvadore .

I've still never heard of her, and am willing to bet that anyone with only casual knowledge of the X-Universe will join me in assuming a character named Angel will be a permutation of the Warren Worthington III character.
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:24 PM   #2740
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Isn't she the one who had babies with Beak a few years back?

Edit: Decided not to be lazy and read the wikipedia page.
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A) Ugly as fuck b) Why the fuck did they kill off Johnny Storm, undo that shit right now. Replacing him with Spider-Man, stupid as fuck. There are certain things you shouldn't mess with the Fantastic Four lineup is one of them.

Edit: Oh what the fuck even worse this is the end of the Fantastic Four they're being renamed The Future Foundation WTF is this shit?

Seriously stupid stupid stupid stupid
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I thought that X-Men trailer looked better than the lousy looking Thor and Green Lantern trailer.
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A) Ugly as fuck b) Why the fuck did they kill off Johnny Storm, undo that shit right now. Replacing him with Spider-Man, stupid as fuck. There are certain things you shouldn't mess with the Fantastic Four lineup is one of them.

Edit: Oh what the fuck even worse this is the end of the Fantastic Four they're being renamed The Future Foundation WTF is this shit?

Seriously stupid stupid stupid stupid
Nonsense.

Nothing is off limits as long as there is good writing behind it. Winter Soldier should have taught everyone that.

I like bold moves like this one. It shows that people aren't willing to put creativity aside for the sake of offending traditionalist thinkers. That is probably why I like Grant Morrison, because it defines his career.

Now that isn't to say I am going to automatically praise anything like this. In fact, the risk is great with this type of move, because it is either a huge success, or a huge failure. There is no inbetween.

That said, I know enough about judging a book by it's cover, and how many times I've been wrong in doing so in this industry, to know that it would be unwise to condemn it, before I even read the fucking thing.
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A) Ugly as fuck b) Why the fuck did they kill off Johnny Storm, undo that shit right now. Replacing him with Spider-Man, stupid as fuck. There are certain things you shouldn't mess with the Fantastic Four lineup is one of them.

Edit: Oh what the fuck even worse this is the end of the Fantastic Four they're being renamed The Future Foundation WTF is this shit?

Seriously stupid stupid stupid stupid
Not like the lineup hasn't been messed with before. Even if it'll likely go back to the original status quo some day, what's the harm in trying something new?
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Nonsense.

Nothing is off limits as long as there is good writing behind it. Winter Soldier should have taught everyone that.

I like bold moves like this one. It shows that people aren't willing to put creativity aside for the sake of offending traditionalist thinkers. That is probably why I like Grant Morrison, because it defines his career.

Now that isn't to say I am going to automatically praise anything like this. In fact, the risk is great with this type of move, because it is either a huge success, or a huge failure. There is no inbetween.

That said, I know enough about judging a book by it's cover, and how many times I've been wrong in doing so in this industry, to know that it would be unwise to condemn it, before I even read the fucking thing.
Well said.




Blah, blah, blah, wah! change, change!

Fantastic Four has been at it's best in years, this is just part of a greater scheme of things. As for Spider-Man replacing Johnny... uh hello? They were friends and Spider-Man was ALWAYS close to them. He's smart and powerful, very useful to the team. Don't like it? Read something else or there's always "classic" stuff out there. The goal here is to sell the book better than it has been doing and it needs an epic story, this is it. Keeping things stagnant and 'safe' for too long is never a good thing either.

It's not like this is permanent anyway, they have like 12 issues and then once sales start to lower, bam! time for issue 600 because FF is getting cut off after 588. Just enough to tell a year long story and start the third chapter with a reverted issue 600.














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Don't worry I don't plan on reading it. I follow comics through Trades every so often and mostly through plot summaries. I still say those costumes are awful.

Isn't Spider-Man now a member of the Avengers, The New Avengers and the FF?
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:17 PM   #2749
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:30 PM   #2750
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To be fair, the Fantastic Four has been a major part of the Marvel Universe for so long, it's not like they'll be this way forever. I give it a year, two at the most, before the Human Torch comes back somehow and the Future Foundation becomes the Fab 4 again.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:41 PM   #2751
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To be fair, the Fantastic Four has been a major part of the Marvel Universe for so long, it's not like they'll be this way forever. I give it a year, two at the most, before the Human Torch comes back somehow and the Future Foundation becomes the Fab 4 again.
A year at most, I doubt they'll skip a chance to have issue 600. Unless they ignore the new numbering for some reason and go back to 589.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:26 PM   #2752
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Digging Spideys White/Black color scheme for this.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:21 PM   #2753
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he looks like antivenom now
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:49 PM   #2754
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So, I haven't read the story - BUT is there any possibility his "death" could be leading into the big Fear event? Like, his fear is that the F4 don't need him, and move on blah blah blah, and their fear is his death? Again, not sure how recent it is, but if we never saw him die - is it feasible?

If it is, I'll pick up the trades...
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:16 AM   #2755
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thats some deep shit
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:16 PM   #2756
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:47 PM   #2757
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thats some deep shit
lol, but is it feasible? Like, is it recent enough for it to be a precursor to the big event?
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:25 AM   #2758
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wtf are those even webs on his mask? looks like a checkerboard pattern. :\

otherwise that costume looks pretty sweet i guess.
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:26 AM   #2759
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:04 AM   #2760
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Reminds me of this one a bit.
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