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Old 08-18-2016, 07:17 PM   #27921
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:17 PM   #27922
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That's Enzo? Looks way different.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:37 PM   #27923
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Watching Raw this week was the first time I've ever seen it and I thought it was the lamest thing I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of lame things in wrestling.

I would actually be embarrassed to show my friends that, and up until I saw that, there was nothing I would have been embarrassed to show my friends that was wrestling related.

Not even Triple H humping a mannequin in a casket.

Care to ebolarate? I haven't watched "regularly" in a very long time, just tidbits here and there. While a lot of things seem really dumb, I feel like you are greatly over exaggerating.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:05 PM   #27924
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Care to ebolarate? I haven't watched "regularly" in a very long time, just tidbits here and there. While a lot of things seem really dumb, I feel like you are greatly over exaggerating.
I just said what I felt while I was watching it.

I was actually cringing as I watched it and was thinking "what the fuck is this?". I actually found it a bit funny, but funny as in "it's so bad, it's funny".

I just got flashbacks to The Boogeyman, but the difference between the two is that the whole Boogeyman character was just a piss-take, really. The character was to be entertaining, humorous and not to be taken seriously at all, and it worked.

This whole Demon Kane King thing is supposed to be viewed as being a legitimate threat to Rollins and judging by Rollins' reaction, scary? I really can't take the character seriously and Bálor's facial expressions and movements just added to the lameness of the gimmick.

I don't know what's so scary and intimidating about an Irishman crawling around the place with toilet paper in his hair and Venom painted on his chest.

If anything, the whole Demon King thing just makes Finn Bálor come across as mentally unstable, but not in the "cool Dean Ambrose" way, but in a way where if you saw someone acting like that, you would genuinely be worried about their health and safety and would try to get them admitted to some sort of mental hospital.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:06 PM   #27925
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I hate that Curt Hawkins facts are just Chuck Norris jokes that were mildly funny in 2007
I never realised that until just now.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:06 PM   #27926
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That's Enzo? Looks way different.
Yeah, he looks better there in my opinion.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:16 PM   #27927
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So it was just the Balor segment then?

Wrestling has always had those kinda "characters" though..... no different really.

The Demon King, as a gimmick, is great. I'm sure, if WWE paid, he could still do his Venom/Joker/Hannibal-type entrances he became known for, but he can't.

It is all meant to be a "spectacle" so maybe you are just "growing up" and don't find it entertaining anymore?

To each their own, hairy muff and all that.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:25 PM   #27928
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It is all meant to be a "spectacle" so maybe you are just "growing up" and don't find it entertaining anymore?
You may be right.

I'm getting old.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:27 PM   #27929
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To be fair though, it was the first time I had ever seen it.

So for all I know, it may grow on me like the name "Universal Championship" did.

At first I hated it but now, I don't.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:29 PM   #27930
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:31 PM   #27931
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Didn't another company buy it?

I read somewhere that Gawker was sold to another company and that pretty much nothing would change with the website when it came to content, staff etc.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:34 PM   #27932
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To be fair though, it was the first time I had ever seen it.

So for all I know, it may grow on me like the name "Universal Championship" did.

At first I hated it but now, I don't.
Not necessarily old, but it is very different than it was just 10 years ago. Targeted more toward younger children and the writing shows it, unless you are Brock Lesnar, then you say/do whatever the fuck you want.


He only does it for PPV matches, at least in NXT. He came out with a chainsaw @ Takeover Dallas which was fun. Love a good chainsaw winding up.

He did a Jack the Ripper type entrance with it @ London. If you haven't seen his days as Prince Devitt in the UK, you should check it out. Pretty cool stuff.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:00 PM   #27933
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I don't mind Balor painting himself up. The way the WWE have presented it is lame as fuck though.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:00 PM   #27934
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Curt Hawkins' facts make me hate the WWE writers. Quit and go write for Two Broke Girls.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:23 PM   #27935
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Balor does come off goofy if the first time seeing or hearing about his demon persona is just from the way RAW did it. On NXT, they handled the build up and mystic a lot better.

Been a real issue with a lot of the call-ups where the WWE flat out doesn't want to spend time needed to tweak or rebuild call-ups so they fit well with the new main roster audiences. They rushed Balor into the spotlight due to the draft thinning out RAW's star and then rushed everything about his character because of laziness and/or assume everyone already watches NXT.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:44 PM   #27936
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The good news for Finn Balor is that Vince and Kevin Dunn are obviously behind him. This is bad news, critically, for Balor; but his pockets won't be empty.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:47 PM   #27937
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I'm actually hoping The Miz keeps the IC Title through SummerSlam.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:18 PM   #27938
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I'm curious as to see what they do with the Universal Title at SummerSlam. There are a few avenues they could take:

* They might go all-in with Balor winning the belt cleanly. A new era, a new champion for that era. It's a morale booster for those toiling in NXT too. Rollins has already had his moments and is cemented as a main eventer in the eyes of management. Him losing "makes" Balor in their eyes. Expect the Balor toys to be rolled out and Balor to be shoved down throats as the new John Cena/Roman Reigns type project.

* Balor wins the belt with help from The Club. They already have The Balor Club licensed and merchandised. This seems like the obvious decision from a marketing standpoint. This accomplishes the "new champion" agenda of the first scenario, but it also creates a new top heel (something they arguably need) and it turns Seth Rollins babyface. The benefits to a face Rollins are pretty obvious: People seem to want to cheer him, he's had his run as the lead villain, his merchandise is already in stores, etc. Rollins is arguably mature enough as a performer to handle being a top babyface with nuance at this point.

* Seth Rollins wins the Universal Title, probably with help from The Club, continuing the main story thread of him being the top heel of the brand. As an established main eventer, he's a good choice to "install" a championship. He's done that before with the NXT Championship, but that actually helps the Universal Title by drawing a parallel between them. Balor being screwed out of the belt by his friends would set him up as the new top babyface relatively smoothly, but also give him a chase.

Truth be told, the more I think about it, the more I think that the best creative decision would actually be to pull the trigger on The Balor Club. It's probably the best from a money point of view, it allows Rollins to become more important while also putting Balor center-stage in an arguably "easier" role. The angle does pretty much write itself. Having Roman Reigns floating around the main event in this context works too, as Rollins is going to need fire-power, and he's isolated everybody on the roster. Rollins & Reigns would be one man down, but that makes people think about Dean Ambrose and could encourage them to watch SmackDown. Yes, Balor winning the Universal Title helps SmackDown and creates a new major babyface slot for someone to take -- whether that be someone already on the roster, like Sami Zayn or Cesaro, or someone from NXT, like Shinsuke Nakamura.
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:49 AM   #27939
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Jesus fucking Christ it is legitimately sad how fat Chris Hero has gotten. Every fucking time I see the guy he is in worse and worse shape.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:12 AM   #27940
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Chris Hero is literally in the same physical shape I'm in. He's as fat as me.
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Yeah. I've stopped watching and I'm going to cancel my WWE Network sub now that football season has started up. I'm going to be too busy enjoying football until after the season ends right around Rumble and through WM season. Then hockey playoffs will be getting started and I'll be cancelling again until after that up until football season starts again. I just can't bring myself to give WWE the $ and privilege of my sub for the older shows and the few new things I like on the network when I've got so much other things to watch during football season and hockey playoffs.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:14 AM   #27944
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Yeah, that video is pretty shocking how he's physically let himself go. But he still seems pretty athletic and more than capable in the ring.
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Balor's demon gimmick is cool and it's worked for a long time but turning it into the demon king has tainted it though. Makes it seem less...cool, more King of Kane.
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I get that comparison a lot. I watch a lot of Kevin Nash's matches. I use a lot of his stuff. I definitely use a lot of his mannerisms. Kevin Nash had a swagger about him. A lot of those things that I watch kind of rub off on me."
That's why he's developing so well.
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Chris Hero is fat, but one of the best wrestlers in the world.
He is, I just can't understand why he would want to let himself go. On his Art of Wrestling podcast appearance not long after his WWE release, he admitted that he had gotten too complacent and didn't have the right attitude.

I had read he had some sort of thyroid issue which could be a contributing factor in the weight gain. But he must also just be eating like shit, because between wrestling and hitting the gym for weight training you shouldn't end up looking like that unless your diet is fucked.
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Old 08-19-2016, 12:38 PM   #27949
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Lol at everyone saying Demon Balor is dumb. If so:

-Undertaker was supposed to be a zombie. Later his manager was named Paul Bearer. That's fn stupid, right?

-Ultimate Warrior was insane and made no sense. Totally embarrassing to be watching wrestling, right?

-Macho Man was just the annoying guy at the gym if we ever went to one. Stupid.

-I'm supposed to believe the Big Boss Man is an actual cop and the Mountie really was Canadian Police? OMG how dumb.

-WTF are these Road Warrior guys with their face paint?? Total ripoff. Lame.

-HHH is a "blue blood?" Gay.

-Yokozuna is a Samoan. Duh. Can't believe they expect me to think he's a sumo wrestler. Gtfo.

-IRS is a wrestler, not a tax attorney. Pfft not believable.

-Now Undertaker has a brother who's from hell? What's with that mask? He's obvs fine. Can't get into that because no one in my office is like that. So embarrassing.
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Lol at everyone saying Demon Balor is dumb. If so:

-Undertaker was supposed to be a zombie. Later his manager was named Paul Bearer. That's fn stupid, right?

-Ultimate Warrior was insane and made no sense. Totally embarrassing to be watching wrestling, right?

-Macho Man was just the annoying guy at the gym if we ever went to one. Stupid.

-I'm supposed to believe the Big Boss Man is an actual cop and the Mountie really was Canadian Police? OMG how dumb.

-WTF are these Road Warrior guys with their face paint?? Total ripoff. Lame.

-HHH is a "blue blood?" Gay.

-Yokozuna is a Samoan. Duh. Can't believe they expect me to think he's a sumo wrestler. Gtfo.

-IRS is a wrestler, not a tax attorney. Pfft not believable.

-Now Undertaker has a brother who's from hell? What's with that mask? He's obvs fine. Can't get into that because no one in my office is like that. So embarrassing.
i absolutely did not read anything past 'undertaker was supposed to be a zombie'

but i dont give a shit what demon king is supposed to be (btw is he really supposed to be a demon?) i just think he looks stupid and moves stupid. and that is all.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:00 PM   #27951
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No one's actually calling the Demon dumb I don't think. It was just dumb they way they did it Monday night. Like I said it wasn't the first time I'd seen the Demon but it was the first time I thought it looked stupid. Someone else said this also but it felt like The Boogyman. I just don't think it was needed for Raw and should have just been held off for Summerslam when it made sense.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:03 PM   #27952
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Don't like the name Demon King. Too close to Demon Kane. Just the Demon. This is why names matter Anybody Thrilla.
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He was just the Demon in NXT right? I skip around but I don't ever remember hearing Demon King.
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He was just the Demon in NXT, yeah
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huh, according to wiki balor is gaelic for 'demon king'
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If the issue is them just having him show up for a promo on Raw and not holding it off until the ppv, I'm 100% in agreement. They did it to present this side of Balor to the masses who don't watch NxT. I don't like it, but that's why.
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I just can't bring myself to give WWE the $ and privilege of my sub for the older shows and the few new things I like on the network when I've got so much other things to watch during football season and hockey playoffs.
I'm the same, in a way.

I really don't watch much on the WWE Network anymore. I did at first, but that quickly stopped and most of the original content on the network really doesn't interest me.

I'm only keeping my subscription as I can catch PPV's the next day and it works out cheaper than ordering it through my cable provider.

It's just a shame I can't catch Raw or SmackDown the following day on the network.
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You can watch Raw & Smackdown the following day on Hulu. That's why.
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