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Old 09-13-2016, 07:35 PM   #28601
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Rusev now from Rusev where he started is night and day. The guy is amazing.
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Old 09-13-2016, 07:40 PM   #28603
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Also, still going to go out on a limb and say that I think his ultimate potential is as a babyface. I don't know when or how they get there -- I honestly thought League of Nations might have been a way to achieve this -- but there's something likable about the guy. There's realism in his eyes. He can move like a killer all he wants, but he's got the soul of a lover, you can see it.
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Old 09-13-2016, 07:51 PM   #28604
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I completely get what you are saying. But, that being said, the RAW/SmackDown dynamic is the only way it makes sense to have more than one set of belts. You can't have a WWE World Title and a WWE Universal Title and it make sense. But you can have a RAW World Title and a SmackDown World Title if each are treated as separately sanctioned promotions.
But there are WWE World and WWE Universal titles and it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is having the Women's and Tag divisions just be Raw and Smackdown branded. WWE Universal Women's Champion sounds a lot better than WWE Raw Women's Champion. Same thing for the Tag division, it just make the title sound like it's something. Raw and Smackdown just sounds generic and uncreative to me.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:03 PM   #28605
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Nah, World/Universal fucking sucks. It means the same fucking thing. You cannot have TWO World Champions, you just cannot do it. That's why when people race and they tie for second they get equal third. By the logic the WWE is employing, you could create a Global Title, a Planetary Title, an Earth Title, and an All Nations Title and say "They're all World Titles."

No, the Universal Title is the top title on the RAW brand. The World Title is the top title on the SmackDown brand. They are the ONE World Title to each of their own sanctioning bodies. It's the only way this thing can work. Therefore, RAW and SmackDown need to be treated as promotions. If you really do treat them separately, then you can have a World Title, Tag Team Title, Women's Title, etc.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:07 PM   #28606
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:10 PM   #28607
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The other way is to keep the World Title, Women's Title and Tag Titles are floating belts like the NWA days. It's a bit hard, since you won't really be sending your champions around the place, and it would require each brand to somewhat surrender its own autonomy a bit.

Either that or before you fly off the handle and commission a brand split in the first place, you actually try and make SmackDown good. A Mauro Ranallo/Daniel Bryan commentary team, with angles that flow throughout the week. Just because there isn't a brand split doesn't mean you can't have "SmackDown-specific" things happening too. For example, this Cesaro vs. Sheamus Best of Seven Series could take place entirely on SmackDown. If Cena wants to keep working part-time, why not have his schedule change to ensure he works on the Tuesdays and you have to watch SmackDown to see him?

It seems like they made SmackDown as shitty as possible, with main events repeated on RAW the next week in the mid-card, with no main event talent, and nothing that really felt exclusive beyond Mauro and King's commentary. They went from that to "ENTIRELY ITS OWN THING!!11" and now they need Jinder Mahal and Curt Hawkins to come back to the WWE in order to pad out their rosters, probably forgetting why they fired them in the first place.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:14 PM   #28608
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It was funny
Lol. Rusev trying to be a good heel. Antiquated idea.

Man, I actually hope that Reigns wins at Clash of Champions. The crowd is going to boo like crazy for him, and he'd actually make a really good United States Champion in my opinion. Given how long he has been in the business, he really should be tearing up the mid-card scene in the most exciting way possible.

Rusev has been ushering in sneak attacks, but when Cole says things like "Rusev is defending the honor of his wife," I remember what Jim Ross says about Bill Watts pulling him aside as a rookie commentator and telling him there are words you can use for babyfaces and their are words you can use for heels. You wouldn't talk about "the heart of Kevin Owens" for example. He's a bad guy. You'd say "the desperation of Kevin Owens." Cole talking about Lana's "honor" is about as babyface as it gets. "Rusev is still bitter," "Rusev cowardly assaulting," "Rusev picking a fight with an exhausted Roman Reigns," etc. Come on, Cole.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:15 PM   #28609
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Jack Swagger will save Smackdown..lol
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:15 PM   #28610
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The Rock vs. Rusev would actually be a really fun feud if they could get The Rock back in the ring. Rusev as a Bulgarian SJW standing up for his wife who has been mercilessly slut-shamed by the Bloodline.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:16 PM   #28611
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Yeah, got no clue where they are going with this, if anywhere at all. This could very easily just be Swagger saying to Vince "Hey boss, my contract is coming up and I'm worthless to you right now, how about you give me the chance to do something," and Vince being all "Here's what we've got for ya, you big sack of crap."
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:17 PM   #28612
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I had this idea that he could jump to SmackDown and team with Kane. Like, not a good idea; more of a premonition.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:21 PM   #28613
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Lol, over on 411Mania, the home of Gertner, there is an article talking about the debut of Bin Wang. In the headline it calls him "Big Wang."
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:23 PM   #28614
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He looked pretty decent. Beat Bo Dallas with a Running Powerslam.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:27 PM   #28615
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Nah, World/Universal fucking sucks. It means the same fucking thing. You cannot have TWO World Champions, you just cannot do it. That's why when people race and they tie for second they get equal third. By the logic the WWE is employing, you could create a Global Title, a Planetary Title, an Earth Title, and an All Nations Title and say "They're all World Titles."

No, the Universal Title is the top title on the RAW brand. The World Title is the top title on the SmackDown brand. They are the ONE World Title to each of their own sanctioning bodies. It's the only way this thing can work. Therefore, RAW and SmackDown need to be treated as promotions. If you really do treat them separately, then you can have a World Title, Tag Team Title, Women's Title, etc.
I agree with you that World and Universal are the same thing. Makes each brand equal and that's how it should be. That's why each brand should have it's Tag and Women's divisions branded as such.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:31 PM   #28616
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:37 PM   #28617
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It's good that he's finally got a T-shirt of his own, but I was really expecting something better.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:38 PM   #28618
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:39 PM   #28619
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Also, it seems like they've left it too late to release this T-shirt.

It would have made more sense for them to release the T-shirt when he first said he had kids and needed the job, all those weeks ago.

If they did, you would have seen so many people wearing it on SmackDown each week, as Slater's support grew as he chased the job he really wanted and needed, but now the WWE release a T-shirt for Slater referencing that he needs the job, but only after he's actually managed to get the job.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:48 PM   #28621
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I was mad the merch stand didn't even have a 2x Kevin Owens Show shirt..let alone a 3x.
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Old 09-13-2016, 10:13 PM   #28622
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I'm way more excited for this than i should be.
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So since we got a Harley now, can Becky dress up as Poison Ivy?
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You CANNOT have two #1 guys. I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.
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No that's Peyton Royce's character.
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His name isn't even on it.
I kind of like that. Makes it less embarrassing to wear as a regular shirt.
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Old 09-14-2016, 02:05 AM   #28628
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You CANNOT have two #1 guys. I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.


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Old 09-14-2016, 02:06 AM   #28629
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I kind of like that. Makes it less embarrassing to wear as a regular shirt.
Not really without his name looks like a shitty comedy shirt you could find at a Walmart.
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They should be the Planetary Tag Team Champions.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM   #28631
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I just figured treating the shows like separate promotions is the only reason they have two sets of belts in the first place. This is part of the reason why I don't want interbrand matches to exist at all bar the Royal Rumble, Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, and MAYBE Money in the Bank since the concept is so played out that I'd rather not have each show with its own briefcase.

The second they start bending the rules "oh, WrestleMania is coming, may as well have all the talent on both shows" they're fucked just like they were the first time.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:26 AM   #28632
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And in the spirit of keeping the brand separate, I'd really like if they stopped running ads for the opposing show's PPV. Sure I guess it could be explained away that the other show bought ad space but it's still stupid. If they are supposed to be rival promotions, own it.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:32 AM   #28633
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I'm way more excited for this than i should be.
Smothers is fucking hilarious. That should be a fun match.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:34 AM   #28634
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I'm way more excited for this than i should be.
Only if Swoggle wears a bear costume. Pretty sure Tracy is the last legit wrestler to take on an actual bear.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:48 AM   #28635
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And in the spirit of keeping the brand separate, I'd really like if they stopped running ads for the opposing show's PPV. Sure I guess it could be explained away that the other show bought ad space but it's still stupid. If they are supposed to be rival promotions, own it.
I was thinking about this on Backlash, and I agree with you. I get both events air on the same network, but the brands are competing. The commentary teams take shots at the rival shows, even. Why would Shane or Stephanie let that ad on the show?
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Tracy Smothers could be a great agent/trainer for WWE.
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Old 09-14-2016, 03:51 PM   #28638
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