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Old 09-16-2016, 05:54 AM   #28681
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:39 AM   #28682
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Certain humiliation from who?
The person wearing it. I cannot fathom why anybody would want to wear one of those in public with a fuckoff huge portrait of the wrestler on the back.

If the back was just a cool design instead of a picture, I could understand. But plastering the portrait on there just looks dumb IMO.
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Old 09-16-2016, 03:30 PM   #28683
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Old 09-16-2016, 03:40 PM   #28684
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:12 PM   #28685
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:14 PM   #28686
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:19 PM   #28687
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James Ellworth could potentially be as over as one-half of the Tag Team Champions, since being a lovable loser is now a credible gimmick. Think about that.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:26 PM   #28688
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:30 PM   #28689
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Paige and Del Rio in TNA would be tremendous. Paige could be a great Knockout Champion. I think Maria is the current champ? Yeah, have Paige chew her up and Maria promise that he revenge will ruin Paige's life. A Mike Bennett vs. Alberto El Patron feud and Saraya being called in to challenge for the Knockout Title with Maria as manager.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:32 PM   #28690
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Ask Del Rio who his favor opponents in Mexico were, have them lined up for him and maybe have a few of them pad out the X-Division. You also have Cody and Brandi Rhodes coming in too. Things could really heat up if they stop with the insane backyard sketches.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:36 PM   #28691
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Think TNA would be a great place for Alberto. He doesn't want to wrestle but 60 matches a year and TNA had a light schedule as is. Guys like Lashley, Bram, and DJ Zzz have also worked for Elite in Mexico so he'd have that as well.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:38 PM   #28692
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With Dixie Carter gone, TNA might start being smarter with how it lets talent brand themselves and where they get exposure. I'd honestly like to see TNA start working with ROH more and more.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:42 PM   #28693
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Read something today that Dixie wants $4 million for the rest of her stake in the company.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:57 PM   #28694
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Feel like Billy Corgan is moving towards dropping the TNA name. The New Impact Grand Championship doesn't have any TNA branding on it. I think Aerolux owns the TNA name to so if he could get full control he might scrap the TNA name all together.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:12 PM   #28695
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:31 AM   #28697
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It needs a re-branding, but I feel like Impact itself is tarnished as a brand name at this point. It might be time for a total refurnishing.
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:33 AM   #28698
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I'd be fine with him calling it "Resistance Pro Wrestling" and calling up his champions to do unification matches with the TNA champions. Bobby Lashley obviously beats "Da Cobra," whoever that is.
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:35 AM   #28699
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TIL that Alicia Fox probably got her name because a group of foxes is called a leash.
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:55 AM   #28701
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Ha. Interesting.
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You know what I fucking hate? When wrestlers are presented as being siblings but then they have different names? Alicia Fox/Caylee Turner; Dolph Ziggler/Briley Pierce. What the fuck is with that?
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:58 AM   #28703
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They never made it as wrestlers, though. Tough Enough and announcer for NXT is the best they ever got except for one match. THey never made it a big thing that they are related either except for the reality of Tough Enough where she was under her their real name last name Crawford.
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Yeah, true, but I hate that they bring them in at all with these false names, even if their story is that they are the brother/sister of someone. Michael McGillicutty annoyed me too.
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This guy is in NXT. I'm expecting big things.
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What's his name, is that Tino Sabatli guy? Know I didn't spell that right at all. Kind of looks like a ripped Cesaro.
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Old 09-17-2016, 02:19 AM   #28707
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You know what is really weird.......

How Charlotte officially doesn't even have a last name, but is heavily promoted as Ric Flair's daughter, and comes out in robes with "Flair" written on them......
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Yeah, that is weird. "Charlotte Flair" doesn't really sound right either.
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What's his name, is that Tino Sabatli guy? Know I didn't spell that right at all. Kind of looks like a ripped Cesaro.
Nah, his name is Dan Matha. This is Tino Sabbatelli:

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Old 09-17-2016, 02:26 AM   #28710
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Hugo Knox, the former British football player, has got a really good look too. I wonder how they are coming along in the ring? If they can string a few moves together, they've actually got some guys who look like stars coming up.
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Old 09-17-2016, 02:29 AM   #28711
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I really want Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Sami Zayn for the Intercontinental Title at WrestleMania. I have no idea how you get past Zayn being on RAW, but I'm sure you can work something where Zayn puts everything on the line against Owens at the Royal Rumble, or something. Title vs. Roster Spot. Zayn loses, enters the Royal Rumble, has a really good showing, but gets tossed out by a heel Ziggler or something.

Zayn vs. Ziggler after Bryan and Shane hire Zayn and Ziggler protests because he's a loser, Zayn goes over, Nakamura debuts and beats Miz for the belt at some point, Zayn vs. Nakamura for the IC Title at Mania.
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Old 09-17-2016, 02:30 AM   #28712
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Or you could simple trade Zayn for Kalisto, since they seem like they are in opposite spots.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:12 AM   #28713
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I'd be fine with him calling it "Resistance Pro Wrestling" and calling up his champions to do unification matches with the TNA champions. Bobby Lashley obviously beats "Da Cobra," whoever that is.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:39 AM   #28714
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Not really sure what's gotten into Noid as of late with this shift toward looks and whatnot, but I gotta say it's kinda dumb. Wrestling is a niche product, and it's gonna continue to be so. No amount of handsome dudes and hot chicks is gonna change that. The "magic" that was the Attitude Era was just a flash in the pan that I honestly don't think will ever be achieved again, and the time when wrestling could be a phenomenon like it was in the 80s went the way of the dodo a looong time ago. WWE needs to just focus on being the best wrestling show out there and stop this nonsense of thinking it can overcome the stigma that's attached to it. Embrace the stigma, make it their own. Until they do that they're gonna just continue to spiral like they have been.
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It's about looking believable and making people suspend disbelief. If people aren't even willing to ironically engage with someone as a main event star, then why are they going to waste their time on the product? You are seeing that play out.
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Running from the stigma of pro-wrestling is what they are doing with "normal guys" headlining. They're not even more or less talented than anyone else on the roster. Everyone gets a participation medal and it's hard for anyone to emerge as a star if everyone is a star. The whole product is gentrified and samey.
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If everyone looked like a million bucks? That would suck too. You get some "body guys" that are the raging shits. Wrestling has always fueled itself on larger than life personalities and honest-to-God charisma. Who on the roster is actually genuinely charismatic? There are a few guys that seem to be hitting all cylinders in NXT (Joe, Roode, Nakamura) but we've seen that the ability to lead the Full Sail audience doesn't always translate to the main roster.

But you also need some pieces of shit to make the great guys look good. You need your lugs that haven't put it all together yet. You need your guys that are all promo, or all ring work. You need that variety so a hierarchy emerges, and whoever is booking/writing/producing can look at a few guys and say "Right, this guy here; this guy there; that girl here." Sometimes if an act is hot, you need to send it away so that it doesn't fizzle before it plays out and then you can never go back.

Give me guys like John Cena and Bobby Roode, but also give me Samoa Joe and Shinsuke Nakamura. And give me these guys from NXT who look like a million bucks and send them on a winning streak -- one on RAW and one on SmackDown. Hire some ugly girls to fight the pretty ones. If someone is getting booed by the crowd, TURN THEM HEEL!
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Running from the stigma of pro-wrestling is what they are doing with "normal guys" headlining. They're not even more or less talented than anyone else on the roster. Everyone gets a participation medal and it's hard for anyone to emerge as a star if everyone is a star. The whole product is gentrified and samey.
How does any of what you just said relate to the looks of the guys in question? I agree with you on the statement that no one can be a star if everyone gets a turn, but that's not at all determined by the look of their stars, it's in the booking. A guy like Bray Wyatt for example could be a huge star right now, but he's not because they keep having him lose literally every fight he picks. His physique has nothing to do with that.

Also I don't know what kind of "normal guys" you see on a daily basis, but I'd hardly call guys like Seth Rollins, AJ Styles, Fin Balor, etc "normal." Dudes have abs on their abs for Christ's sake. Unless you're spending half your time in the gym daily I seriously doubt you see guys like that very often. This really just sounds like a height thing.

Oh, and "samey?" How? You've got one of the most physically diverse rosters we've ever seen in wrestling history right now. Pretty much every body-type imaginable is on display.
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You're the one projecting the looks thing onto me. I don't only care about a person's looks. I feel that aesthetic is important in any form of performance art, absolutely, but you're the one who wants to the limit the scope to looks, I guess.

Bray Wyatt absolutely could be a star if he were booked correctly, I agree with you there. It's a shame that the booking is fucking shit.

Everyone works the same fucking match these days. Everyone kicks out of everyone's finishers. That's how I mean samey.
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Guys are the same for so many years at a time now too. Bray Wyatt has been Bray Wyatt with very little development for three years now. It's coming on the same period of time for Luke Harper (who is awesome, by the way). It seems that everybody gets something sorta down, then they stay the same for ten years and play either a fiery babyface version or cowardly heel version of the same gimmick.

It's stale versus fresh. No one is really heading anywhere with what they're doing. Just look at the rosters for the video games. 2K have to keep putting legends in because otherwise there's very little reason to actually purchase the games.

PREEMPTIVE NOTE: I am not saying change for the sake of change is good. And I know that I'm talking about people's livelihoods and I do want everybody who can make a living in wrestling to do so. But looking at things from a creative/business perspective? Wrestling needs to be fresher than the same old shit every week.
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