09-19-2016, 03:04 PM | #28801 | |
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What didn't I understand about you saying "Ivory immediatley comes to mind as a woman who should be given a chance to run the creative team of ROH."? I do get that plenty of former wrestlers are given backstage roles as agents and some are thrown in creative. Almost all of those wrestlers have been continually in the business as well. Michael Hayes has almost never had a break. Dutch Mantell who you always praise hasn't really had a break. Joey Mercury hasn't really ever had a break. Ivory hasn't been a part of the wrestling business since 2006, and that was a small tour, before that was basically 2003. Talk about making no sense. She out worked Triple H in wrestler's court. Okay. So what? Everyone always looks at that as the most lame, childish stuff that no one takes seriously. And come on. She did her best to put over Chyna, former member of the biggest stable in WWE history, DX, and the first female Intercontinental Champion, who was put over by Chris Jericho, and I could be wrong on the timeline here but I think she was either in the middle of or already had her Latino Heat angle with Eddie Guerrero... she needed Ivory to make her look good? And her talking shit about Triple H is just the reason to keep her away. If she's gonna burn her bridge and reveal drama with the biggest bridge you can have, what kinda dirt is she gonna reveal from your camp? |
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09-19-2016, 05:00 PM | #28802 |
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09-19-2016, 05:44 PM | #28803 |
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09-19-2016, 11:01 PM | #28804 |
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Prince Puma/Ricochet recently teased on Twitter he has something special set for 2017 and it doesn't involve going to the WWE, NXT, ROH, or TNA.
Being rumored he either signed a new deal with Lucha Underground or gotten a full-time contract with NJPW. If he signed a new deal with LU, might be using the Ricochet name for future seasons. For some reference, he is still tied to LU till the end of Season 3 (mid-2017) due to how his LU contract was structured in terms of promotions with tv shows at least in the US and maybe Mexico. |
09-19-2016, 11:53 PM | #28805 | |
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09-20-2016, 12:07 AM | #28806 | |
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You've misquoted me dramatically. I said I'd be interested in seeing a woman given the chance to book something close to being a major North American promotion -- and no, I don't consider Stephanie McMahon a "booker." Ivory came to mind because you're not going to get fucking Trish Stratus to do that, are you? Maybe having a break is a good thing sometimes? The wrestler's court point was just a point about her being a quick-witted and intelligent woman. It doesn't mean she could book, but there's more clues to indicate she could contribute than, say, Christy Hemme *coughloltna*. The Chyna point went way over your head. I wasn't saying that Chyna was only over because of Ivory. I was observing that Ivory knew -- or at least went along with the plan -- to get squashed despite being a better overall wrestler than Chyna. She knew the story to tell. People actually thought she was a no mark because she got destroyed by Chyna so well -- you yourself admitted to that earlier. Brilliant work on her behalf. You can choose to see her comments on Triple H as destructive, but I appreciate she doesn't kiss ass looking for a job back and tells it like it is. |
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09-20-2016, 12:12 AM | #28807 |
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JBL would make a tremendous manager. He's kind of staled on commentary, so I'd like to see him start his own little group. He'd be wonderful as the money behind The Revival.
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09-20-2016, 09:35 AM | #28808 |
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What does everybody think of Mojo Rawley? I was never high on the guy, and I absolutely hate his current gimmick and pairing with Zack Ryder, but I think there's something there. If there is, I think it'll come out as a heel, so I'm looking forward to the eventual turn on Ryder, but with The Usos and probably Ziggler, there are quite a few turns going on. Maybe try running with him as a babyface for a little bit?
I really wouldn't mind someone taking out Zack Ryder and then Rawley stepping up to them. I think if Rawley is pushed hard enough, the crowds will revolt and then you can turn him with some oomph behind it. I'm not sure who their plan for the next IC Champion is, but I could see value to the idea of giving the strap to Rawley for a bit -- especially if the end game is an eventual heel turn, as The Miz seems to be garnering some good will at the moment. |
09-20-2016, 09:41 AM | #28809 |
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Mojo reminds me of a couple guys I served with that we kept the drugs and booze away from. He's midcard and happy to be there doing his job.
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09-20-2016, 09:50 AM | #28810 |
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I don't know, he seems like a driven guy. What's the word I'm looking for?
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09-20-2016, 09:57 AM | #28811 |
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ripe?
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09-20-2016, 09:58 AM | #28812 |
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Maybe. Might sound a little like that.
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09-20-2016, 09:58 AM | #28813 |
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Type?
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09-20-2016, 09:59 AM | #28814 |
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Randy Orton not a fan of the fist-raising during the American National Anthem, according to his Twitter account. He states that courage is what it takes to stand and fight, not just raise a fist. Think Orton's angling for another shot at starring in The Marine?
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09-20-2016, 09:59 AM | #28815 |
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Gripe?
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09-20-2016, 09:59 AM | #28816 |
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Tripe?
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09-20-2016, 10:02 AM | #28817 |
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I think Mojo could have some success as a solo act. I think I'd prefer him to be face rather than a heel, though. Maybe Ryder can be the one turning on him, re-aligning with Curt Hawkins because we all know they're going to give up within a matter of weeks on making Hawkins a big deal as a solo guy.
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09-20-2016, 10:13 AM | #28818 |
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My problem with Mojo Rawley as a face act is that he's such a pristine golden boy type. He's the dude that works hard, shows up every day, does well in school, does well in sports, gets all the girls, etc. It'll be hard for the neckbeards of the world to get into a guy who is such a winner at life who is also probably really humble and listens to whoever his coach is.
Obviously generalizations as I don't know the man, but that's how his history has been presented. It's easy to resent an overachiever like that. I'm not saying he's going to be the next Rock or anything, but that's sort of the blueprint I'd use with Rawley. Push him as a face, let the fans revolt, turn him heel and roll with the punches. Maybe in time he'll become "cool" enough to turn face again and give a solid run on that front. |
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09-20-2016, 10:19 AM | #28820 |
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Mojo Fact: Mojo was called "The Iron Sheik" when he was a football player, because of his strength.
God damn, would Iron Sheik as Mojo Rawley's "coach" not be 1000x times better than Bob Backlund as Darren Young's life coach... |
09-20-2016, 10:20 AM | #28821 |
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I think the "Curt Hawkins Facts" just reek of cocky heel. My fear though is that he's going to walk out to crickets during his debut because nobody knows what the fuck he's supposed to be yet and the people who have watched long enough only know him as a jobber.
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09-20-2016, 10:23 AM | #28822 |
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I think that is EXACTLY what is going to happen. Maybe he'll prove us all wrong and win the IC Title at No Mercy and prove that title belts chase Curt Hawkins?
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09-20-2016, 10:25 AM | #28823 |
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I kinda don't ever want to see Miz lose the IC Title at this point. But I would be all for giving Hawkins a proper match at No Mercy if they actually want to make a big deal of him.
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09-20-2016, 10:25 AM | #28824 |
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Apparently a few guys have been knocking back WWE offers because they don't really want to go on the road again just to job. I'm not sure how valid those reports are, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Vince reward the guys who do take him up on his offer so people in the future don't dare knock him back when his representatives call.
I'm sure there are a few reasons Heath Slater & Rhyno got the tag belts -- among them Rhyno being on the right side of Vince McMahon's politics, Heath Slater getting over and Vince generally enjoying the yucks -- but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a "thanks for actually coming in" reward for Rhyno. |
09-20-2016, 10:26 AM | #28825 |
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Remember that one episode of SmackDown where Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks did a striptease dance and it literally never got mentioned on TV again after that? What the fuck was that all about?
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09-20-2016, 10:27 AM | #28826 | |
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I guess that maybe Curt Hawkins beating Dolph Ziggler at No Mercy could be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back on that front. I could see them running Ryder vs. Hawkins and getting Ryder to do the honors too, but beating Ryder really doesn't mean much at this point. |
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09-20-2016, 10:29 AM | #28827 | |
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I think the idea was that they were going to try out different tag team gimmicks on the main roster to try and get over. Basically TAFKA Goldust sort of stuff. |
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09-20-2016, 10:31 AM | #28828 |
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If they brought back Reks there'd at least be someone for Hawkins to team up with to fight The Hype Bros.
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09-20-2016, 10:33 AM | #28829 | |
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The only concern there is that SmackDown could get quite crowded on the heel side. Unless Hawkins/Ziggler is presented as face vs. face or they do a double-turn. |
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09-20-2016, 10:34 AM | #28830 |
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Swagger needs wins but if his first feud ends up being with Baron Corbin as expected I have to think Baron's coming out on top. It might just turn out that they brought Swagger to SmackDown solely to give Corbin a low carder to go over while they try to figure out where he should go next (aka same thing they are doing with Braun Strowman/Sin Cara on Raw).
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09-20-2016, 10:36 AM | #28831 |
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Actually mentioning Sin Cara.....Kalisto vs. Curt Hawkins oddly intrigues me. I actually think those two could have some damn good matches and it makes me sad that Kalisto is buried with nothing to do. I know he's been nursing a back injury but that could be a decent program once he returns.
Or they could do the logical thing (lol) and have Kalisto's contract expire so he can go to the Raw and the Cruiserweight division. |
09-20-2016, 10:45 AM | #28832 | |
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I've got no clue why Kalisto isn't on RAW. I get that they want one cruiserweight to not be a cruiserweight, but Kalisto is such a fucking cruiserweight, ha-ha. Zayn would have been a guy to get away from that. |
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09-20-2016, 11:26 AM | #28833 |
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What's everybody's leading bets as to what the WrestleMania main event is going to be? As of right now, I'm leaning towards AJ Styles vs. John Cena for the WWE World Title. I think Styles finds a way to keep the belt at No Mercy, avoids a one-on-one match with John Cena until WrestleMania.
I'd love for it to be AJ vs. Brock, but something about that just doesn't seem right. It feels like two "outsiders" fighting over the belt. I know WWE has fully embraced AJ, but it still feels like he's "young" in WWE years, and Brock is never around. The only problem is that they've done Styles vs. Cena a fair bit over the past year. Cena was sort of there to get Styles into the title picture. They seem to be keeping Styles vs. Orton in their back pocket, but do you think Orton can get hot enough to headline? I could see Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble and using it to jump over to the SmackDown side of things too, depending on how Vince feels about their chances of being a top babyface at that point in time. Weird that the only thing I really feel pretty sure about is Styles defending the World Title against someone. |
09-20-2016, 11:29 AM | #28834 |
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Oh, and don't ask me why, but I have a very weird feeling that AJ vs. Bray could happen, with possible Club and Family involvement, with Bray being a babyface. I think he came back as a heel just to be functional for whatever it was they put him in again, but when they run out of ideas for him as a bad guy he'll be given a strong push as a face. That's my really "out there" pick.
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09-20-2016, 11:48 AM | #28835 |
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How about keeping those discount Austin's away from AJ?
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09-20-2016, 11:53 AM | #28836 | |
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09-20-2016, 11:57 AM | #28837 | |
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Would also love if Lesnar wins the Universal Title from Owens at the Rumble and Balor returns and wins the rumble to set up Brock/Balor at WM. |
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09-20-2016, 12:20 PM | #28838 |
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09-20-2016, 12:25 PM | #28839 |
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Uhhh......what?
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09-20-2016, 01:29 PM | #28840 |
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