10-06-2016, 04:00 PM | #29281 |
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10-06-2016, 04:09 PM | #29282 |
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10-06-2016, 04:16 PM | #29283 |
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Bayley has always been the weaker of the 4hw in the ring, but I wouldn't say she's bad.
That said, her real ability is being able to connect emotionally with an audience. The other women can't even touch her in that category, and she's only going to get better at it. |
10-06-2016, 04:20 PM | #29284 |
Quality Meme Producer
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The Mortal Kombat in me wants Dana Brooke to be repackaged as Sindel
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10-06-2016, 04:23 PM | #29285 |
TPWW Fire Pro Champ
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Chatter going around the net is that Gorilla Monsoon died.
Then again, someone could be fucking with Yahoo!. |
10-06-2016, 04:24 PM | #29286 |
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Then she can just walk into a 6 pack challenge and murder everyone, effortlessly
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10-06-2016, 04:25 PM | #29287 |
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But then Tatanka comes and summons his spirit gods to ddefeat her, sacrificing himself in the process.
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10-06-2016, 04:26 PM | #29288 |
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Wow, I timed those posts very poorly. Thanks, clockshot.
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10-06-2016, 04:36 PM | #29289 | |
Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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Kinda goes into Noid's point. And why the company was looking to push Eva Marie so hard in spite of her being awful. Or why Nikki Bella and Kelly Kelly have record championship reigns. Honestly, I think Bayley not being supermodelish works for her. It helps set her apart. And I personally still think she looks worlds better than Charlotte, mainly because I see her dad's face from the 80's on a female body. Kinda disturbing to me. Not only does she have the connectability, she actually has some sort of character... and not one you have to discover by watching some auxillary show [total divas]. Nobody will ever get past the Playboy Bunny/pissbreak mindset without more Bayleys in the business. |
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10-06-2016, 04:37 PM | #29290 |
Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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10-06-2016, 04:45 PM | #29291 |
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Lynch's mat wrestling is the best of the 4. Her counters, her transitions are all head and shoulders above the other 3. She hasn't had as amazing a performance as NXT takeover match against sasha, but she is capable of a lot more than she's shown on the main roster. Can't say mysrlf why she hasn't shown it yet.
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10-06-2016, 05:03 PM | #29292 |
I'm a loner, Dottie...
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Honestly I think they're all exceptional, just in different areas. That's really their strength though. It allows for the division to have a great deal of diversity IMO.
Like Fignuts said i think Becky is the best technician of the group. Others have pointed out that Bayley is the best at connecting with the fans on that emotional level ala Daniel Bryan. Meanwhile Sasha and Charlotte exude "star power." |
10-06-2016, 05:12 PM | #29293 |
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Agree that Bagley is the female Daniel Bryan. I can't stand either one.
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10-06-2016, 05:29 PM | #29294 |
Feeling Oof-y
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A lot of the charm of the Bayley character was lost in transition to the main roster.
Thing is they've but themselves in a Catch 22; if you re-tell the story that got her over in NXT you risk having it shit on by the vocal portion of the audience that already saw this story/know that she's better than struggling her way up the division past the likes of Summer Rae, however, without that story they'll find it harder to get people to connect with the character. |
10-06-2016, 05:49 PM | #29295 |
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Didn't help the WWE went too far back with reverting her character from what was built on NXT while also expecting everyone to already know everything about her from NXT.
Either they shouldn't have panicked and put her on RAW or should have her call up earlier since neither brand has a deep enough Women's division star-wise to do a retelling of her character's rise. |
10-06-2016, 07:14 PM | #29296 |
I'm a loner, Dottie...
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I think WWE's biggest mistake at this point is that they think more people watch NXT than actually do. They just assume that everyone watches NXT now or knows what is going on down there and so have forgotten how to do character building on the main roster because of it. They assume that everything comes prepackaged and ready to go when in reality they still need to add all the spices and cook it before the meal is ready to eat.
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10-06-2016, 07:23 PM | #29297 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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10-06-2016, 07:24 PM | #29298 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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10-06-2016, 07:40 PM | #29299 |
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10-06-2016, 08:09 PM | #29300 |
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I disagree. Personally I never seen one thing from Bryan that would intrest me in him. Guys just bland in my opinion. He could wrestle but his style was boring. Why do you get butt hurt everutime someone bashes Bryan or Bagley?
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10-06-2016, 08:09 PM | #29301 | |
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That's how you end up with situations like Emma who debuts looking like a goof since none of her NXT stuff counted but WWE still wanted her to act the same way. Or stuff like with Finn where his demon stuff gets treated as canon from the start even if everything that lead up to it was ignored. |
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10-06-2016, 08:30 PM | #29302 |
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10-06-2016, 08:55 PM | #29303 |
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10-06-2016, 08:58 PM | #29304 |
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New WWE comic book series sounds like it could maybe actually be "good"..... Not like some sort of weird "fantasy" thing, but supposedly grounded in the real storylines/characters.....
First story arc supposed to be a deep look at Seth Rollins, and his mind when he decided to turn on The Shield. |
10-06-2016, 09:55 PM | #29305 |
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10-06-2016, 10:04 PM | #29306 |
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10-06-2016, 10:05 PM | #29307 |
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Eat it innnnn...mannnn
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10-06-2016, 10:21 PM | #29308 |
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Ugh
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10-06-2016, 10:27 PM | #29309 |
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Can't believe Ken Doane was in the same building as John Cena at Smackdown Live. Talk about combustible elements.
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10-06-2016, 10:53 PM | #29310 | |
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I agree that she might just have the best crowd connection -- but you do have to consider that she got over in NXT. That is a completely misleading audience. They also got to go along with her on a grand story. It seems like she's not going to get that on RAW. |
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10-06-2016, 10:57 PM | #29312 | |
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I'm sure you can find plenty of people that find Bryan's nice guy act a bit boring and bland -- but it's not the dominant view. Eli Drake's career is not done yet, but if he is remembered for having better charisma than Daniel Bryan, I will be extremely surprised. |
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10-06-2016, 11:01 PM | #29313 | |
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Bayley had to come up after Brooklyn II. She just had to. She was running thin down there, but they didn't need to jam her into the title picture right away. Maybe an angle with Dana first? They could have put her on SmackDown and advertised her on RAW, so that people wouldn't get upset if they saw Nia Jax, for example, confront Charlotte, while they only expected Bayley. It's all been handled with complete disregard for Bayley, to be honest. |
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10-06-2016, 11:04 PM | #29314 |
Inno Knows.
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Becky's wardrobe designer is the biggest heel in the business
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10-06-2016, 11:11 PM | #29315 | |
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10-06-2016, 11:14 PM | #29316 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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THey didn't just say yes without being directed to. He had massive charisma to scream out Yes! Yes! Yes! I'm the World Heavyweight Champion! when he was a heel and it caught on.
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10-06-2016, 11:35 PM | #29317 |
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Didn't it start with No chants though. Or did he go from Yes to No back to Yes.
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10-06-2016, 11:45 PM | #29318 | |
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10-06-2016, 11:51 PM | #29319 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Cena ruined Ken's life and career. Fucked his girl and got him fired. Where's the love for the fellow Massachusetts wrestler John? Booo this man.
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10-07-2016, 12:14 AM | #29320 |
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Started with YES chants, but he was still a heel so he didn't like the fans chanting YES, so he started chanting NO at them, which made the fans chant YES even more. When he turned face, he embraced the YES.
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