11-01-2016, 08:23 PM | #29841 | |
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I also think the mixed messages they are sending with equality does subconsciously have an effect on how they are perceived too. On one hand, they are supposed to be as good as the men, but on the other they make a big deal about how they are as good as the men. I compared it to calling a female comedian a "female comedian" in another thread. From what I've heard, they did a really contrived false injury spot for Sasha prior to actually getting in the cell. This sort of booking isn't exclusive to the women, but it's melodrama to the point of pantomime. Cesaro and Sheamus went 0-3, 3-3, tie. It's very clunky and fans can see the strings -- and that is when they revolt. Sasha getting up off the stretcher exposed the really broad strokes of what they were trying to achieve. The company couldn't have screamed any louder "We are trying to manipulate you!" That's the sort of thing that people still hold against pro-wrestling when they stupidly point out to people "you know it's fake, right?" They're also trying to get the women to wrestle men's matches. No, I'm not saying that the HIAC is a male gimmick, but they are getting Sasha to fight off paramedics and trainers like she was Steve Austin. She's a cruiserweight playing heavyweight. Let her wrestle like Sasha Banks -- there is an organic style she can work that will connect with people. This match sounds like an overproduced mess, and people want to be kind about it because they think they're being nice, but it's actually condescending to the abilities of the performers. |
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11-01-2016, 08:36 PM | #29842 |
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Wait a second.... you didn't even see the cell match and you DERIDED Charlotte's work in the match and now saying all this other stuff.......
Man...... You used to be cool...... |
11-01-2016, 08:49 PM | #29843 |
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No, I'm critiquing the work I've seen from her since she's been main roster. I'm responding to the feedback from the cell, which wasn't promoted in a way that made me really want to see it. I was interested in the match in general, but that was my own notions of what the girls could do going in, and not what the company built around them. It can't be that alien a concept to people to hear a song of an artist and decide you don't want to buy the album, or you see a trailer for a movie and think "Eh, I don't really want to see that." I'm sorry if it sounded like I was actually critiquing Charlotte's specific performance in the match. I am responding to her promo on RAW and the reviews her HIAC performance with Sasha has gotten (mixed, which is a shame, since their work was almost universally lauded in NXT).
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11-01-2016, 08:53 PM | #29844 |
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I quit TPWW forever.
Can't deal with the negative vibes. Good day, sirs. |
11-01-2016, 08:54 PM | #29845 |
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Peace.
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11-01-2016, 09:01 PM | #29846 |
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Honestly, I love you, LJ, but how dare anyone have an opinion on wrestling on a wrestling forum, right?
"Oh, but it's negative." Well, maybe the product should try being better sometime. |
11-01-2016, 09:02 PM | #29847 |
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MAYBE YR. FACE SHOULD BE BETTER
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11-01-2016, 09:10 PM | #29848 |
boop/bop/beep
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LOL heart Jock Law and Noid
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11-01-2016, 10:21 PM | #29849 | |
King K Cool
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11-01-2016, 11:18 PM | #29850 |
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11-01-2016, 11:20 PM | #29851 |
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But seriously, you've got me thinking about wrestling criticism, which I appreciate. Lately I've been more interesting in responses to the business than the actual product. I might start a thread discussing what is an appropriate objective opinion, if there is one when it comes to such subjective matter, and what is unfounded speculation. At what point can you be assured that Baron Corbin is boring, etc.
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11-01-2016, 11:21 PM | #29852 |
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11-01-2016, 11:55 PM | #29853 |
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Let's all just get along and let Emma bring us together
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11-01-2016, 11:58 PM | #29854 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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sweet baby jesus....
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11-01-2016, 11:59 PM | #29855 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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11-02-2016, 12:02 AM | #29856 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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So they are filming American grit right next to my house. John Cena is here obviously....and everyone in town is going nucking futs over it for no reason. Sheer insanity. Apparently he is staying a few houses down from my parents while they are here for filming. Wonder if my dad is acting like a tard too. Uhg.
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11-02-2016, 01:42 AM | #29857 |
Trickster Demon
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11-02-2016, 10:28 AM | #29858 |
( ._.)
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Surprised he doesn't have Triple A.
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11-02-2016, 11:36 AM | #29859 |
Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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11-02-2016, 11:43 AM | #29860 |
( ._.)
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I'd like to see James Ellsworth run a heel stable of hosses who beat people up so he can get the victory.
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11-02-2016, 01:21 PM | #29861 |
You can't teach that
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I want to see him and Braun become a Master Blaster combo
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11-02-2016, 02:21 PM | #29862 |
Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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11-02-2016, 02:54 PM | #29863 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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11-02-2016, 04:56 PM | #29864 |
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Emma wins the thread.
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11-02-2016, 04:59 PM | #29865 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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So WWE is giving you what you asked for! MORE MORE MORE!
A new cruiserweight show called 205 Live will be on wwe network right after Talking Smack. MORE IS MORE! MORE MORE MORE |
11-02-2016, 05:03 PM | #29866 |
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The Network is going to thrive on content, but at some point you have to wonder when the WWE becomes like a needy partner texting too much.
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11-02-2016, 06:00 PM | #29867 |
King K Cool
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11-02-2016, 06:04 PM | #29868 | |
BAY BAY
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11-02-2016, 06:10 PM | #29869 | |
King K Cool
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11-02-2016, 06:49 PM | #29870 | |
Make the IWC Great Again
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The beauty of The Network is that you can create these events that are unique, but in itself dont need to draw as a standalone show. The reasoning for scaling back on the Survivor Series matches in the past was that the event was always the weakest of the "big 4". But now you can make this is a special show, and dont have to worry about how many buys it gets. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these guys interact, even though they've only been separated for a few months. Next year when the Series rolls around, it will be even more special. On top of that it prolongs some of these other programs. We already know the main event for the next PPV, which is the right place to blowoff that program. |
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11-02-2016, 07:12 PM | #29871 | |
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11-02-2016, 09:57 PM | #29872 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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It's fake but at "The Beggining" |
11-02-2016, 10:10 PM | #29873 |
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Heath Slater is tremendous.
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11-02-2016, 10:30 PM | #29874 |
King K Cool
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Does anyone know how long WWE appearances usually are?
I've just found out that Ziggler will be making an appearance in Glasgow before SmackDown next week and I'm curious if I'll be able to make it or not. |
11-02-2016, 10:33 PM | #29875 |
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YOU GOT THREE MINUTES, AND HE'S OUTTA THERE
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11-02-2016, 10:37 PM | #29876 |
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Latest installment
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11-02-2016, 10:53 PM | #29877 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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I'd imagine in the range of 1-2 hours, but that would just be an educated guess....
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11-03-2016, 12:10 AM | #29878 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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11-03-2016, 01:02 AM | #29879 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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You could've just zoomed out...
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11-03-2016, 01:17 AM | #29880 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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not enough desk space
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