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Old 01-26-2017, 04:59 PM   #31801
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Trying to remember what the main event of Wrestlemania 32 was, and I seriously can't remember...... drawing a big blank.....
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Reigns vs Triple H.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:07 PM   #31803
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With a PPV in a couple days, Poit's last day on here was over a month ago. Pretty much the last thing he did was post the final 2016 Tipsters standings (and he won) but he hasn't logged on since.

I dunno, they stopped doing the podcasts a while ago and most of the TLP had left.....think Poit might've been waiting to wrap up the Tipsters year before leaving himself.

Unless someone else takes up the mantle I'm guessing there will be no Tipsters this year.
Fucker took his Tipsters winnings and skipped town. Probably enjoying a life of luxury somewhere in the Bahamas. Damn.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:10 PM   #31805
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I had to stop and think for a while at first myself.

I originally thought it was Lesnar vs Reigns (with Rollins cashing in his MITB) but that was WrestleMania 31.
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Just read first issue of Boom Studios' WWE comic book.......... revealed that HHH did not "ok" Seth Rollins cashing in his Money in the Bank at Wrestlemania, and was not "happy" with Rollins acting without his permission and "slammed him against a wall" when he got backstage and warned him "not to ever go against his wishes again".......

So this Rollins/HHH thing goes back further than we thought...... the tension......
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:13 PM   #31808
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I had to stop and think for a while at first myself.

I originally thought it was Lesnar vs Reigns (with Rollins cashing in his MITB) but that was WrestleMania 31.
Yeah, and then after I remembered I thought "Oh yeah, that was a mess of a match with all the outside interference and everything" but then I remembered "oh wait, that was HHH vs Sting at WrestleMania 31"
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And every time Rollins mentions on RAW about how he missed Wrestlemania last year, I have that instant where I am all "Huh? I have no memory of him missing Wrestlemania"

Basically what I am trying to say is that I seem to barely be able to remember that Wrestlemania 32 occurred, and constantly think of 31 as the last one.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:22 PM   #31810
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Rock vs Cena 2 feels like it's gonna be the last WrestleMania main event ever that felt "WrestleMania-worthy". Unless they go Cena vs Taker. The drop-off has just felt insane since and all the part-timers who can bring that genuine "big fight feel" are gonna retire or die soon. Depressing.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:34 PM   #31811
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Rock vs Cena 2 feels like it's gonna be the last WrestleMania main event ever that felt "WrestleMania-worthy". Unless they go Cena vs Taker. The drop-off has just felt insane since and all the part-timers who can bring that genuine "big fight feel" are gonna retire or die soon. Depressing.
It may be, but it had a predictable finish. Didn't really know Rock would win thevery first one. It could have been the retcon torch pass.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:42 PM   #31812
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They supposedly actually sold 48000 tickets though. Close to 40000 this year. Depending on how they go about it id imagine it'll still look impressive and better than when TNA booked the one corner for Lockdown in 2013 but I bet this makes them rethink non Mania Big 4 shows in bigger venues
It's the range with what they expected ticket sales to be at this stage. Texas is a big walk up crowd, so they'll probably have more tickets out the door by show time. In 1997 they didn't have a large stage blocking off seats, which they will this year, so in reality capacity for wrestling is probably closer to 55k. It'll look amazing on TV.

Only on the internet would selling over 40k tickets to an event be seen as lol WWE.
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Rock vs Cena 2 feels like it's gonna be the last WrestleMania main event ever that felt "WrestleMania-worthy". Unless they go Cena vs Taker. The drop-off has just felt insane since and all the part-timers who can bring that genuine "big fight feel" are gonna retire or die soon. Depressing.
Maybe you can finally stop watching and take your negative attitude to another genre. May I suggest Live PD?
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:51 PM   #31815
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Supposedly the WWE is trying to persuade FloSlam to drop EVOLVE from their network as payback for the generosity the WWE has given them. EVOLVE would then move onto the WWE Network instead while also no longer needing to worry about the restrictions WWE has for their indie talent.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:54 PM   #31816
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What? WrestleMania 30 was good.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:02 PM   #31817
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What? WrestleMania 30 was good.
Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton vs Batista wasn't anywhere near as huge of a deal as Rock vs Cena. That was my point. It could have been on any B PPV and not felt too big for it. Rock vs Cena was a true "big fight" WrestleMania match.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:13 PM   #31818
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respectfully disagree via story of Daniel Bryan winning title/overcoming Authority finally was a WM-level storyline
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:17 PM   #31819
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They supposedly actually sold 48000 tickets though. Close to 40000 this year. Depending on how they go about it id imagine it'll still look impressive and better than when TNA booked the one corner for Lockdown in 2013 but I bet this makes them rethink non Mania Big 4 shows in bigger venues
True, even a crowd of 40k will look HUGE on tv compared to normal crowd...I remember when RAW was at Rogers Center in Toronto (site of WM 6 and WM 18) and crowd looked massive despite not being a sell-out. Same for WCW Nitro at Astrodome and Georgia Dome.

I think SummerSlam could and should be held in a 30-40k outdoor stadium to be honest. Lots of soccer stadiums in the U.S. have that capacity, StubHub Center in L.A. and Sporting KC Stadium both come to mind.



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It's the range with what they expected ticket sales to be at this stage. Texas is a big walk up crowd, so they'll probably have more tickets out the door by show time. In 1997 they didn't have a large stage blocking off seats, which they will this year, so in reality capacity for wrestling is probably closer to 55k. It'll look amazing on TV.

Only on the internet would selling over 40k tickets to an event be seen as lol WWE.
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Without even getting into whether or not Bryan, Batistia and/or Orton were huge stars who brought a "this is a huge deal" feel like Rock/Cena did... he'd already won the title. That "moment" even happened on a PPV a few months before. So even from that aspect it's kinda overrated.
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I think #1-wwf-fan might be the most negative person on the boards (which is generally full of negative posters)
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Am I wrong?

Pretty sure I just voice it more. You pretty much said/implied what I felt when discussing the forgettable nature of the last WrestleMania main event.
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Yeah, a lot of the time

I still like you, though, because I am positive and like everybody
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Even as Mr. Positivity, I wouldn't have to go far back in your posts to find you saying pretty much the same things I've said about shit booking, forgettable, poorly put together storylines, etc. That's saying something.
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Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton vs Batista wasn't anywhere near as huge of a deal as Rock vs Cena. That was my point. It could have been on any B PPV and not felt too big for it. Rock vs Cena was a true "big fight" WrestleMania match.
Sort of agree mainly because Rock-Cena I & II had both guys as big mainstream stars and Bryan-Batista-Orton only had Bryan as the big mainstream star.

Both matches still had the "big fight" feel to them but in different ways. Rock-Cena I & II were stronger in star power but weaker in actual storyline while Mania 30 was weaker in star power but stronger in storyline.
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I hate to break this to you folks but Daniel Bryan is so overrated on these boards its unreal. I dont think anyone gives a damn about him or his history. I wouldnt care at all if he came back. I would laugh or maybe raise an eyebrow i dont know. He was no where near as good as everyone acts like he was. Nor was CM Punk for that matter. It cracks me up to see these posts.
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I hate to break this to you folks but Daniel Bryan is so overrated on these boards its unreal. I dont think anyone gives a damn about him or his history. I wouldnt care at all if he came back. I would laugh or maybe raise an eyebrow i dont know. He was no where near as good as everyone acts like he was. Nor was CM Punk for that matter. It cracks me up to see these posts.
Yeah. At the very least, he definitely wasn't a "big mainstream star".
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If it does close. Lesnar Goldberg will be a pretty big main event in terms of legitimate star power.

Lesnar Reigns, imo, had a big fight feel. But that was more with Lesnar's aura than anything Reigns was bringing to the match.
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If it does close. Lesnar Goldberg will be a pretty big main event in terms of legitimate star power.

Lesnar Reigns, imo, had a big fight feel. But that was more with Lesnar's aura than anything Reigns was bringing to the match.

Something about Lesnar-Goldberg main eventing doesn't do it for me. I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's the fact that it's the rematch of a squash. Maybe their first WrestleMania match is still in the back of my mind and this could be a similar situation. It might be the best option sadly though.

Reigns vs Lesnar had potential but it ended up basically being a heel vs heel match. Although the match was booked pretty perfectly for Reigns to get over as a face until the end.
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I vaguely remember Daniel Bryants WM Title win. I know it was 3 way, i think HHH was in it, i cant remember the other guy. I'm a huge wrestling fan, and this is what Daniel Bryant is to me and the majority. It's the same reason i laugh when someone tells me Kenny Omega is going to debut in the Royal Rumble. LOL ??? Why? 90% of wrestling fans have no clue who he is. I barely know who he is. What would be the point of debuting him? He's not getting anymore over by being in the RR. It cracks me up.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:56 PM   #31834
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Yeah. At the very least, he definitely wasn't a "big mainstream star".
Disagree since he was generating a lot of outside press and "YES" stuff becoming big in the mainstream. WWE being way too stubborn to take advantage of it and Bryan's body breaking down at the worst time possible were the only reasons why it didn't last. Had neither occurred, he would have been the perfect person to use as a bridge for the Cena and Reigns eras.

Last time something as organic happened for the WWE was the Summer of Punk stuff and Punk's record breaking modern WWE reign.
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Disagree since he was generating a lot of outside press and "YES" stuff becoming big in the mainstream. WWE being way too stubborn to take advantage of it and Bryan's body breaking down at the worst time possible were the only reasons why it didn't last. Had neither occurred, he would have been the perfect person to use as a bridge for the Cena and Reigns eras.

Last time something as organic happened for the WWE was the Summer of Punk stuff and Punk's record breaking modern WWE reign.
I disagree. The last time something organic happened for the WWE was Enzo. I know that is not a popular opinion, but for a 2 month span that guy had the mic and he had control of everything. And WWE just didnt have the guts to just go with it. And it's understandable. He's teamed with Cass. Cass has a lot of potential, but if we're strickly talking " organic ". Enzo had that for sure. They just didnt pull the trigger.
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Let me expand

They should have went nuts with the hot mic Enzo carried. Now its so so. But if they had, they could have pushed him a bit and then they could have slingshot Cass over him with a fued between them and put the prototypical big man up there. But they missed that. Or passed on that. And it dont really make sense.
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Cass is way more ready than Corbin atm. But it comes down to what shows they are on i guess.
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Let me expand

They should have went nuts with the hot mic Enzo carried. Now its so so. But if they had, they could have pushed him a bit and then they could have slingshot Cass over him with a fued between them and put the prototypical big man up there. But they missed that. Or passed on that. And it dont really make sense.
Agree on they should have pulled the trigger sooner at least in regards to a tag title reign and using it to boost their star power for something bigger in the future. WWE being petty against Demoltion ended up hurting them a lot.

Cass is probably a few years away from becoming a potential big star and think if they separate before then, its going to just be a repeat of the Cryme Tyme situation. WWE favored Shad a lot more than JTG but quickly lost all interest in him because his solo run was failing or moving slower than they wanted after the split.
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