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Old 01-27-2017, 12:41 PM   #31881
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:45 PM   #31882
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lol Cena vs HHH was a pretty big deal. Cena vs HBK, even though HBK is my favorite of all time, felt kinda lacking. I can see the point being made either way. HBK seemed pretty set as the guy there to put everyone else over at that point which was obviously what he was there to do. Made the match feel like less of a big deal. I could also see an argument being made for HBK's retirement match.
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:47 PM   #31883
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As for the three years prior, Hogan vs Rock SHOULD have been. I think most of us agree putting Jericho vs HHH on as the main event was a bad idea for the exact reason I've been talking about.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:15 PM   #31884
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:27 PM   #31885
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Not anything against anything you said, I just wanted to point out that Toru Yano could get over in the US if he was booked as he is in Japan (IE Japanese Eddie Guerrero).
He'd be a Jap Brodeus Clau
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:11 PM   #31886
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Brodus Clay was an awesome midcard fun babyface until they just started feeding him to everyone.
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:28 PM   #31887
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here's why Roman is great :

If you don't watch RAW and only read the recaps, you only have to watch him get booe'd out of the building once a month, while the commentators are struggling to make him look popular

it's like watching Curb Your Enthusiasm, but in wrestling
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:35 PM   #31888
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Agree on they should have pulled the trigger sooner at least in regards to a tag title reign and using it to boost their star power for something bigger in the future. WWE being petty against Demoltion ended up hurting them a lot.

Cass is probably a few years away from becoming a potential big star and think if they separate before then, its going to just be a repeat of the Cryme Tyme situation. WWE favored Shad a lot more than JTG but quickly lost all interest in him because his solo run was failing or moving slower than they wanted after the split.
I disagree on the 2 year thing. The guy has really improved in the last year. They have to do something fast with him. Dont let him be just another big man. He has so much potential. I really like Cass over Strauman.
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:37 PM   #31889
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WWE looks as if they've tried to reward him a bit with this break out feud with Rusev, but it's really not enough. He deserves a little more. They got to get him going towards the top somehow. They cant let the dude turn bland and then decide to push him.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:17 PM   #31890
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"the whole storyline was supposed to lead to the debut of Scott Vick (formerly WCW's Sick Boy) as Katie's avenging brother. Instead, the reception was so bad that WWE decided to abandon the entire thing altogether. HHH beat Kane, Katie Vick was never brought up again, and Scott Vick was let go without ever making it to TV."

Never heard this about the Katie Vick angle before.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:55 PM   #31891
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Give him the battle royal win, and a shot at the US title as the prize. Build him up to cash in for the belt at the next brand exclusive show and then have him go on a tear.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:35 PM   #31892
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It didn't help that Fandango got concussed a month after.

The way the WWE could have kept Fandangoing "Hot" would be to have Fandango yell at the crowd and tell them to stop, etc.
Yeah getting hurt early into his push didn't help but WWE pretty much lost all interest in him even though he was only out for a couple of weeks.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:35 PM   #31893
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:23 PM   #31894
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It didn't help that Fandango got concussed a month after.

The way the WWE could have kept Fandangoing "Hot" would be to have Fandango yell at the crowd and tell them to stop, etc.
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Yeah getting hurt early into his push didn't help but WWE pretty much lost all interest in him even though he was only out for a couple of weeks.
They managed to ruin the Fandangoing thing and make it corny and awkward like a week later. By the time he was out injured, there was no momentum to be ruined.

They've had plenty of opportunities where they could have done something with Fandango (including dropping the gimmick and actually pushing him because he's a fucking prototypical WWE superstar under it all... Fuck this company.)
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Old 01-27-2017, 10:26 PM   #31895
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Based on most of the "rumored plans" stuff I think I have WM figured out.

Rumble winner - Orton
AJ Styles retains
Owens retains
Charlotte Retains
HHH gets eliminated by Seth Rollins
Gallows and Anderson win Tag Titles
Stroman eliminates Undertaker

Bray Wyatt wins the WWE title at Elimination Chamber (vs Cena Ambrose Styles Corbin and Ziggler) Samoa Joe debuts and attacks Cena.
Goldberg beats Owens at Fast lane when Jericho interference backfires.
Finn Balor returns at Fast lane to help Gallows and Anderson retain vs Sheamus/Cesaro

AJ Styles is pissed off at Shane McMahon for making him defend the title in EC. The Miz is pissed at Daniel Bryan for not including him in the EC match...
Nikki Bella wins a SD Women's Championship Elimination Chamber match

Wrestlemania 33 Card
Goldberg © vs Lesnar Main Event Universal Title
Bray Wyatt © vs Randy Orton WWE Title
Chris Jericho © vs Kevin Owens US Title
New Day vs The Club (Gallows Anderson and Balor)
AJ Styles & The Miz vs Daniel Bryan & Shane McMahon
Nikki Bella © vs Mickie James SD Women's Title
Charlotte © vs Sasha Banks Raw Women's Title
John Cena vs Samoa Joe
Braun Strowman vs Undertaker
HHH vs Seth Rollins
Big Show vs Shaq
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8 man Cobrand MITB Match Reigns vs Sheamus vs Cesaro vs Rusev vs Dean Ambrose vs Dolph Ziggler vs Luke Harper vs Baron Corbin (I couldn't figure how to get all of them on the card and it makes sense to have MITB be on a cobrand ppv vs having it be SD only)

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Old 01-27-2017, 10:57 PM   #31896
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:13 PM   #31897
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Saw that story a few days ago. Figured security would be tighter at a wwe event lol.

In reference to AJ styles stuff getting stolen by hoodlums.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:15 AM   #31898
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:28 AM   #31899
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He was champ for an extended stretch, wasn't he?
He was World Champ once he left the Cruiserweight Division, teamed with Eddie Guerrero, then feuded with Eddie Guerrero. The CW Division was a distant memory at that point.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:57 AM   #31901
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Dolph Ziggler would be a great shout for this, in my opinion.

If the crowd is as smarky as I think it could be, he'll get heat when he walks out at #10. Then Dillinger can eliminate him at #11 to a huge pop. Sets the wheels in motion for a good feud, too.
Tye Dillinger vs. Dolph Ziggler is my personal pick for "feud I really want to happen right now." Dolph enters the Rumble #2 and then Tye enters #11 or 12. Jinder Mahal is the #10 entry and gets tossed by Tye without too much trouble. Tye then goes nose-to-nose with Ziggler and tells him that he owes King an apology. Dolph shrugs it off and then gets absolutely OWNED by Tye.

We've been here and done this with Dolph before. It's time he starts making new stars by doing what he does best -- getting his ass kicked. It also feeds into his current frustrated character. Tye whips him and then drops ten elbows on him, mocking the old pose Dolph used to do (similar to Tye's "10" actually) and then tosses out Zigs and makes him kiss Jerry Lawler's feet.

He triumphantly continues on in the Rumble as JBL asks "Haha! Who is this guy, Mackal?!?" and Cole informs us that he is "Tye Dillinger. The Perfect Ten -- inside the ring and outside it."
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:07 AM   #31902
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Tye is 10
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That would be far too unlikely to work. Move him away from the #10 spot and give him a sincere run.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:38 PM   #31904
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Not sure which of the Rumble threads I should put this in, so I'll put it here "to be safe." I previewed the show on my latest podcast:

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Old 01-28-2017, 05:43 PM   #31905
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:46 PM   #31907
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I'm curious as to whether or not Gargano & Ciampa retain the NXT Tag Titles and have a great match at Takeover Mania in a good showing for the division, or if they lose the belts and split up so they can do the Gargano vs. Ciampa match at their big show.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:54 PM   #31908
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Probably the best to keep them together if they lose the belts tonight (or in the near future) because I don't think NXT has any regular big face teams left after them. Only other big face team was TM-61 and they are going to be out for a while.

Wouldn't even split them on NXT since they are going to have a lot more value as a team than as separate guys for call-ups.
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I do get the "we could use teams" argument, but I personally think they are going to be more interesting as singles guys. But I would split them up on the main roster after you've given them some shine in one of the divisions. Honestly, RAW could probably use them a lot more than SmackDown.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:04 PM   #31910
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wow, i just read chris jericho is gonna be suspended in a shark cage above the ring during owens' match.

not as stupid as judy bagwell on a pole, but they're getting there.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:56 PM   #31912
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The whole "manager being suspended in a shark cage above the ring" has been done for decades. It's not that stupid.
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i don't recall ever seeing one.

so is the point of the match to free the guy or he's just hanging there not to interfere? cause there are easier ways to make sure he doesn't.
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He's just hanging there so as not to interfere. Obviously if this was a legit sport they'd be easier ways... but the shark cage concept pretty much just guarantees that at some point we'll see some sort of shenanigans.
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I remember Paul Bearer being in one for a Taker-Mankind match. Also, Jerry Lawler was in one for a Bret Hart-Issac Yankem match back in the day. Those are the only WWE ones I remember.
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Lol Andy Richter is judging the Miss Rumble 2000 contest and I forgot The Kat was WWF women's champion
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