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Old 12-17-2015, 04:50 PM   #281
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Just back from it now. It's brilliant. It's Star Wars in a way the prequels never were. Hits all the right spots. Echos back to the originals brilliantly without screaming in your face about it. There's only one lime that's a bit too on the nose in a "nudge nudge, wink wink, remember this from the originals?".

There's still plenty left open to be revealed in future films too.

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Old 12-17-2015, 08:04 PM   #282
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so supposedly daniel craig has a cameo as a stormtrooper, delivering a line during rey's interrogation (that's not really a spoiler, is it)
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:09 PM   #283
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Heh, I hadn't heard that. I did just read before that Simon Pegg's in it too. Their roles are akin to that of Nathan Fillion's cameo in Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:10 PM   #284
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Kylo Ren is a brilliant villain by the way. I can see some people not liking certain aspects of his character, but I thought he was really well done.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:11 PM   #285
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Will write up a big post tomorrow full of spoilers on my thoughts on the film.
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Thought this was out tomorrow, but my theater is playing it. Gonna see it in another hour or so.
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Heh, I hadn't heard that. I did just read before that Simon Pegg's in it too. Their roles are akin to that of Nathan Fillion's cameo in Guardians of the Galaxy.
yeah, simon pegg's character even has a name - unkar plutt

it was pegg who outed craig, craig denied at first, but turns out he was in it after all, according to EW

so i dunno, if you're gonna see him, pay attention to the interrogation scene and maybe you'll recognize his voice or something
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JJ Abrams buddy Fat Greg Grunberg is of course given a part too. One of my friends who didn't know who he was actually asked me afterwards if he was a fan who won a competition to get a part in the film.
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Incredible movie. Spoiler stuff here because I know people will stupidly open thread without seeing movie yet.

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Fucking caaaaaalled Han dying. No way Harrison Ford was doing three movies. Loved it. Kylo Ren teased the face turn but in true WWE fashion once that embrace lasted just a bit too long you knew what was coming. Fuck yeah. Tear up some Rebel scum, Kylo.



Less spoilery: Daisy Ridley is beautiful. I thought she was perfect in the role. Loved every moment she was on-screen.
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I like how they blended a good mix of nostalgia old stuff without going TOO overboard with it. I mean... it could've been toned down a bit but whatever. I get it. I like that they introduced a "new batch" of heroes to kind of take the mantle now. I thought Rey was awesome. Finn was super too, go PK Subban.

There were two lines that kind of bugged me. Right near the start when buddy is all "Who talks first, you or me?" it just felt a little "too" casual/jokey. I get the guy is kind of a GOOFBALL just bugged me how nonchalant he was feeling in a pretty dramatic moment.

Also Han's "Death Star" throwaway line. Idk. Was fine, just felt a littttle too tacked on.

Some of the scenes were awesome. I love the Supreme Leader's "chamber" (for lack of better term). Felt really imposing and fitting of a total bad guy hangout spot. That shot of when the PLANET LASER BEAM OF DEATH was blowing up the planets, when the one shot is of the people looking at the oncoming laser... damn. I was hoping they'd give it like 1 or 2 more seconds there to really sink in the feeling of dread. But that was intense. Loved it.
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Great flick...

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Loved Rey, and there is still so much to her and her character and backstory for future episodes.

I am kind of craving backstory for everything now. I want to know how exactly things got as they are. What did Finn go through all of his life? Who is Rey? Why exactly did there NEED to be a resistance? It was clear that there was a New Republic, but why didn't they oppose the First Order openly? What was the situation that there needed to be a "resistance"? I guess we won't really get into the boring politics stuff in this trilogy because OH SHIT THEY JUST BLEW UP CORUSCANT. But still, wouldn't mind knowing the backstory on the boring political stuff.

I almost WANT them to just say F it and recast Han/Luke/Leia and make some movies set between 6 and 7 to explain how we got to where we are. I will also just accept some books/comic books, I guess.

My one thing that "bugged me" about the movie was Chewbacca walking right past Leia after returning from Han dying.... DAMN CHEWIE, that's cold!
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Old 12-18-2015, 01:15 AM   #292
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yo, got super lucky. Tickets all sold out when I got there. Was walking away when a chick I know recognized me and called me over. One of their friends flaked on them so they had an extra ticket. Saw this shit for free, son!

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Loved this movie so much. Finn and Rey are superb new protagonists, and have great chemistry. I like how the trailers mislead everyone into thinking finn was the jedi. Nice curveball. And speaking of curveballs...Kylo Fucking Ren y'all. A lot of people expected rey to be han and leias kid, which I still think she is, but I was not expecting the Kylo Ren twist at all. I liked Ren a lot. Especially his voice and how they didn't just go for vader 2.0. It's different in that it's authoritive and soft at the same time. Makes his presence more chilling.

Think most people predicted Han dying, just because ford is so old, but knowing didn't take away from the scene at all. Tremendously done.

Glad they aren't bothering with the political nonsense like the prequels. but I hope they at least mention why the republic wasn't seemingly taking an active stance against the first order, in the next film. Kind of a big plot hole.

Big mystery is Supreme Commander Snope. He looked appropiately intimidating and powerful. Looks old and battle scarred too. Where did this guy come from and where was he during the original trilogy? I have my own theory. I think it's Darth Plaigous. Guy is powerful enough that he tricked Sidious into thinking he killed him and has been in the shadows manipulating events for generations.

But anyway, yeah. Fucking awesome movie. J.J. knocked it out of the park.
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Old 12-18-2015, 02:00 AM   #293
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I liked it more than all the others besides A New Hope.
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:04 AM   #294
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I liked Kylo Ren turning out to not be an invincible machine of a villain like Vader was. It separates his character a bit. He's a young, evil little shit who idolises Vader, but while he can be vicious, he's not quite there yet in terms of his ability, fear factor or even his mentality. There's room for his character to grow into a sinister bastard whose confusion at being pulled from both sides of the force makes him quite unstable. I can see him getting some stick for the tantrums he had but I actually really liked that side to his character.

General Hux chewed the scenery in every scene he was in but he was a pretty great cocksure counterpart to Ren.

Crazy that C-3PO probably got the biggest laugh out of me.
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To expand on Fignuts' first paragraph: are we certain that Finn isn't as well? I mean, his upbringing suggests it's a complete longshot but he wasn't exactly useless wielding the lightsabre. Could just be a general proficiency with weapons though. One thing I was super hoping to happen even if it would've just been total fan-service and not necessary would be when Finn was running around with that Storm Trooper blaster/taser thing in one hand and the lightsabre in the other, would've been bad-ass to see him dual-wielding a blaster in one and sword in the other and just going to town. Whatevs though.

OH and speaking of Ren's tantrums, that scene where the two Storm Troopers nope right out of the hallway was fucking brilliant.

I love Kylo Ren. Think he could potentially be a better villain than Vader. Yeah, come at me.
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Finn could be, but I would attribute his proficiency with the saber solely to melee training. I mean we see that stormtroopers obviously have that in these movies.
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Yeah, I think that's more likely than anything. Would be cool if maybe once Luke is brought back into the fold if he restarts the Jedi Academy or whatever, then he trained Finn maybe. I do like the idea of having non-force-using main characters though (though I guess Poe fills that role nicely)
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I know kylo ren is han and leia's son, does the movie say whether that rey lady is their daughter? there were rumors
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Really really curious to find out what his "deal" is. I got serious "Kingdom Come Superman" vibes from him. Things didn't go the way he wanted, something bad happened, and he went into exile and abandoned everybody.

You would think, though, that "feeling" six planets being blown up (or however many it was), or Han Solo dying, would have been "enough" to "shake him out of it" and bring him back. Superman only needed Kansas to blow up.

So yeah, very curious as to his motivations and actions..... And very frustrated at having to wait two years for any sort of answers.
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JJ Abrams buddy Fat Greg Grunberg is of course given a part too. One of my friends who didn't know who he was actually asked me afterwards if he was a fan who won a competition to get a part in the film.
Knew him from Heroes. Distracted me for a good 5 minutes
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I've never watched the Star Wars films, but that trailer is pretty sweet. Makes me want to go watch them.
1-6 were shown back to back last week and so far I've watched the first two from the original trilogy, think they were pretty decent.

Going to binge watch the remaining films so I can go see this new one.
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Asian guy from Lost was in it. He looked terrible though.
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Well, seeing as they borrowed a tonne from A New Hope (still enjoyed the movie), we will probably get the 'no, there is another' plot point in Episode VIII. Rey has too much force whoop-ass to not be a Skywalker.
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Idea 1: They split up twins like the the prequels. Still don't know if that makes sense since they wouldn't leave a daughter young alone like that. Was goatee guy from the opener who died her caretaker? Seemed like she was along for a long time so probably not.


Idea 2: Is Mara Jade around? Maybe Rey is Luke's daughter. Too obvious but operas are usually a little bit obvious with the story.

-How'd the orange woman find the lightsaber it fell down the shaft in Bespin in Empire.

Fucking Han dying sucks. Some fucking dickhead was talking about it last night at a Burger King. Didn't want to say anything to make him confirm it as a spoiler but fuck that prick. Should just eat at Panera anyways.

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1-6 were shown back to back last week and so far I've watched the first two from the original trilogy, think they were pretty decent.

Going to binge watch the remaining films so I can go see this new one.
You need to watch them back to back as in 3-4-5 and then 1-2-3.
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Knew him from Heroes. Distracted me for a good 5 minutes
He looked pretty bad too. I guess he must have been related to Porkins.
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One thing that I was just "too excited by other things" to even think about until now:

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Where the F did that "map to Luke Skywalker" come from? Who made it? Why? Was it Luke? Why is he doing this? I WANT ANSWERS NOW!
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Just got back the movie was awesome I have thoughts about a certain antagonist and a certain alignment which didn't hit me till halfway home. but they can wait.

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He looked like someone in their 40's. Which he is.
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One thing that I was just "too excited by other things" to even think about until now:

SPOILER: show
Where the F did that "map to Luke Skywalker" come from? Who made it? Why? Was it Luke? Why is he doing this? I WANT ANSWERS NOW!
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made me think of City Slickers II, with the map piece in the hat. My only problem with this was: did they not say the map was in "multiple pieces"? How the fuck did Artoo have the whole damn map except that piece? That's not multiple. That's two!

Also had a problem with BB-8. Not in the "easily marketable mascot" way, but in the plot... he was described as "one of a kind", and everyone kept identifying it by the orange. Why not PAINT THE FUCKING DROID?!? Nobody would be searching for a a green or purple BB unit. Nobody thought to disguse the damn thing.
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I liked Kylo Ren turning out to not be an invincible machine of a villain like Vader was. It separates his character a bit. He's a young, evil little shit who idolises Vader, but while he can be vicious, he's not quite there yet in terms of his ability, fear factor or even his mentality. There's room for his character to grow into a sinister bastard whose confusion at being pulled from both sides of the force makes him quite unstable. I can see him getting some stick for the tantrums he had but I actually really liked that side to his character.
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Luke Skywalker

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Really really curious to find out what his "deal" is. I got serious "Kingdom Come Superman" vibes from him. Things didn't go the way he wanted, something bad happened, and he went into exile and abandoned everybody.

You would think, though, that "feeling" six planets being blown up (or however many it was), or Han Solo dying, would have been "enough" to "shake him out of it" and bring him back. Superman only needed Kansas to blow up.

So yeah, very curious as to his motivations and actions..... And very frustrated at having to wait two years for any sort of answers.
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I wouldn't worry about Han's impalement from Marilyn Manson and subsequent tumble. He'll be back in the next movie as Solo the White!

Seriously, though. Vibe I got from him in the movie was like the cyclops from Krull, who could see into the future to where and when he dies. Kind got it ever since he was talking about how he didn't believe in the Force, but knows it's real now. Why else would he choose right then to go see his son and draw attention to themselves when they had a clear shot of escaping? Kylo's ability to focus his power is already pretty inconsistent, as he could tell they were on the planet, but not when he was 50 feet away. They could have set the charges and been on their merry. It was like Han was there to die.

As far as Luke's deal, maybe it isn't super sinister or even swervy as everything seems to suggest. Maybe they're going to play the guilt/burdened angle straight, and he exiled himself from everything and everyone because he really feels like the galaxy is better off. I mean, EVERYBODY is looking for the guy. And Leia and Han "went back tomwhat they weregood at" at an emotional rough patch, imagine multiplying that by virtually everyone.
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I wouldn't worry about Han's impalement from Marilyn Manson and subsequent tumble. He'll be back in the next movie as Solo the White!

Seriously, though. Vibe I got from him in the movie was like the cyclops from Krull, who could see into the future to where and when he dies. Kind got it ever since he was talking about how he didn't believe in the Force, but knows it's real now. Why else would he choose right then to go see his son and draw attention to themselves when they had a clear shot of escaping? Kylo's ability to focus his power is already pretty inconsistent, as he could tell they were on the planet, but not when he was 50 feet away. They could have set the charges and been on their merry. It was like Han was there to die.

As far as Luke's deal, maybe it isn't super sinister or even swervy as everything seems to suggest. Maybe they're going to play the guilt/burdened angle straight, and he exiled himself from everything and everyone because he really feels like the galaxy is better off. I mean, EVERYBODY is looking for the guy. And Leia and Han "went back tomwhat they weregood at" at an emotional rough patch, imagine multiplying that by virtually everyone.
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Leia specifically tells Han to come back with their son. when he questions how he could reach through to him, she says because your his father.
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One thing that I was just "too excited by other things" to even think about until now:

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Where the F did that "map to Luke Skywalker" come from? Who made it? Why? Was it Luke? Why is he doing this? I WANT ANSWERS NOW!
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R2 had it because he scanned the Imperial Network in A New Hope. It's the last Jedi Temple. Don't know why they had a huge piece missing unless Yoda did that before they could scan everything after Order 66.

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Thankfully no. When I went to see the final Hobbit film there was a stupid child that wouldn't shut up; felt like slapping him and his father.
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Just came back from the movie, and I loved it as well. I am sad that episode 8 is 1.5 years away now.
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