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Old 02-22-2017, 09:36 AM   #32441
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Goldberg almost exclusively wrestled in singles matches during the streak according to profightdb, only exceptions were one tag match where he and Nash beat Hogan / Big Show and he was also involved in a mini battle royale, which he also won.
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:18 AM   #32442
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I always wondered what happened to Chris Kreski. It turns out he died in 2005.
He never really got the proper appreciation he deserved.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:23 PM   #32443
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Out of curiosity did Goldberg lose a tag match when he was undefeated?
I was always under the impression that he never did. Undefeated used to mean undefeated and singles guys were often singles guy and they wouldn't always throw them into filler tag matches to get through to the next PPV or whatever.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:38 PM   #32444
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Kreski's extensive use of storyboards was mocked by many in the WWF during his tenure, but they enabled him to achieve a high degree of continuity in his storylines, which began to devolve into semi-coherence following his departure.
Fucking infuriating to read that. No wonder shit gets dropped with no explanation all the time.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:40 PM   #32445
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Kreski would use relationship maps too, hence people didn't just forgive their former enemies willy nilly the second they turned face.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:44 PM   #32446
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Fucking infuriating to read that. No wonder shit gets dropped with no explanation all the time.
In defense of the criticism, Kreski was one of the first "writers" of WWF television. Before that you had Russo and Ferrera, but before that it was Vince, Prichard and Cornette, and before that it was Vince and Patterson or whatever. Shows weren't as mapped out, they were generally "booked."

Given that they are in things now, it would nice if they had this sort of planning though. It would also be nice if it did still fall into the lap of one man's vision to smash against Vince's -- as opposed to a team of people all with different goals and ideals.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:47 PM   #32447
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Kreski would use relationship maps too, hence people didn't just forgive their former enemies willy nilly the second they turned face.
This is one of my biggest pet peeves in wrestling. It ALWAYS takes me out. I don't mind two former rivals teaming up for the sake of a match -- wins and losses matter and you don't always get to draw who you want as a partner when it comes to the matchmaker trying to put on a good show -- but at least fucking acknowledge the heat between you.

For some reason, a giant tag team match where Cody Rhodes and Rey Mysterio were two participants on the babyface side REALLY bothered me. It's not even the most egregious example, but I remember it bothering me because the feud between Cody and Rey stood out in my mind so much, since they don't really do feuds like that anymore.

It made me reflect on not only the WWE's lack of continuity, but their lack of heated rivalries. It was a double-whammy in taking me right out.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:57 PM   #32448
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Yeah.... more recently with how chummy Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins had been vs KO/Jericho....... I get that they have "common enemies", but there was very little acknowledgement that these two should probably still hate each other......
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:00 PM   #32449
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:02 PM   #32450
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Yeah.... more recently with how chummy Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins had been vs KO/Jericho....... I get that they have "common enemies", but there was very little acknowledgement that these two should probably still hate each other......
Agreed.

Yesterday I thought it was dumb that Apollo Crews and Dean Ambrose were going after each other in the beginning of the battle royal when they both should have wanted revenge on Dolph/Corbin respectively.

Not as bad as the other examples but still annoying.
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:04 PM   #32451
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Out of curiosity did Goldberg lose a tag match when he was undefeated?
I already said he lost his first match before he debuted on tv so it is irrelevant.
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:08 PM   #32452
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You're watching WWF at it's height, it really never got better than the Chris Creski days of 2000.
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Agreed.

Yesterday I thought it was dumb that Apollo Crews and Dean Ambrose were going after each other in the beginning of the battle royal when they both should have wanted revenge on Dolph/Corbin respectively.

Not as bad as the other examples but still annoying.
Dean Ambrose did go for Corbin right away....
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Dean Ambrose did go for Corbin right away....
Sorry I didn't see that, did Crews go after Ziggler right away?
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:18 PM   #32459
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Yeah.... more recently with how chummy Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins had been vs KO/Jericho....... I get that they have "common enemies", but there was very little acknowledgement that these two should probably still hate each other......
When Seth Rollins first turned on the Shield I was hoping it would somehow turn out that he was actually a mole the Shield was planting in the Authority to take them down from within.

I wanted the three of them to always be best buds and they'd all turn face/heel together. Now they probably will be portrayed as best buds anyway but it's completely retconning Seth's 2+ year heel run.
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Old 02-22-2017, 03:21 PM   #32460
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Sorry I didn't see that, did Crews go after Ziggler right away?
Didn't pay attention to them
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:08 PM   #32461
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Fucking infuriating to read that. No wonder shit gets dropped with no explanation all the time.
Gets worse when considering he wasn't the last to do something like this or put a focus on continuity in the WWE. Similar problems ended up happening every time and in the case of WWE hiring actual continuity supervisors, none last more than a few months.

Vince pretty much gets revealed as the main source of the problem almost every time because of his constant rewrites and only caring about his plans.
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Vince really puts new meaning in "To the victor goes the spoils"

I mean what can you do as fans. We gripe because we love wrestling, but Vince is making the product for himself. And it's HIS product after all and he's the only show in town.

WE LIKE WHAT HE TELLS US TO LIKE. or we don't watch
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:04 PM   #32467
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:04 PM   #32468
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:13 PM   #32469
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:58 PM   #32470
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at Kassius Ohno's gear from tonight's set of NXT's tapings.



Also one of the post-Mania call-ups likely got revealed during this set of tapings.
SPOILER: show
One of the matches set is a Loser Leaves NXT between Ohno and The Drifter. Drifter ended up losing the match
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:56 PM   #32471
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Dare the WWE to come up with a better segment than this
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:57 PM   #32472
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at Kassius Ohno's gear from tonight's set of NXT's tapings.



Also one of the post-Mania call-ups likely got revealed during this set of tapings.
SPOILER: show
One of the matches set is a Loser Leaves NXT between Ohno and The Drifter. Drifter ended up losing the match
God he looks like shit
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:58 PM   #32473
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:08 AM   #32475
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Been watching a bunch of Shotgun Saturday Night's from 1998. What a weird group of enhancement guys they booked: Christopher Daniels, Devon Storm, Tajiri, Joey Abs (Jason Ahrendt). Pretty interesting.
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:11 AM   #32476
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Makes sense time wise cause Daniels was going to be the Higher Power if he could have stood up a little bit higher in stance.
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:39 AM   #32478
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- Styles was apparently supposed to take the fall in the triple threat with Wyatt and Cena, but Cena pushed and got it changed to him taking the fall instead.

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