07-27-2017, 02:53 PM | #35361 |
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He's a fucking heel
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07-27-2017, 03:02 PM | #35362 |
Hey Mister!
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Who takes pictures backpacking with the guy he just tried to murder
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07-27-2017, 03:05 PM | #35363 |
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07-27-2017, 09:01 PM | #35364 |
Trickster Demon
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07-27-2017, 09:07 PM | #35365 |
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How's he tweeting?
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07-27-2017, 09:08 PM | #35366 |
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07-27-2017, 09:59 PM | #35367 |
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07-27-2017, 10:55 PM | #35368 |
Hey Mister!
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Really need to let Gallows and Andersons personalities out on tv
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07-27-2017, 11:34 PM | #35369 | |
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Alicia Fox: I can see it. The same with Summer Rae and Dana Brooke. They need women, but they don't really use these women. Brooke is green and fit in that bodybuilder sort of way, so she might just get re-allocated to NXT or put as someone's henchwoman again. Summer Rae recently got some publicity, but they're doing nothing with her, so you couldn't call it a shock. Alicia Fox seems...just there, but I can imagine Vince really loving her wacky stuff and her getting to stick around. The Colons: Primo won't go, because he's hurt, regardless of if there are plans for him or he requests it. Epico is someone I can see going. Apparently they are miserable, so it might be a "mutual thing." Dolph Ziggler: This is the "shocker" I could see coming. They see uses for Dolph, but lately he has been...underwhelming in that function. If he hasn't turned into the locker-room leader they want him to be, I can see it being a situation of "we'll talk in a year after you have some stock back working indies, Japan, exhausting entertainment options or just rehabbing." Luke Harper: One I considered. It's not like they seem to have anything for him. Erick Rowan seems a lot more likely, especially if they are set on them not being a team. But maybe they do become a team? It's just a case of how they feel about certain bodies on the roster once they do the cuts. They might "have room" for Harper then. Mickie James: Not with any hostility, but I can see this being a case of "we gave you a run, it was nice to see you, but we don't have any plans. Stay in touch." Rhyno: I get where you are coming from, but I can see Rhyno staying. Rumors had him going to SmackDown soon. He seems to be having fun and popping the boys. He's probably a good example to them to stay healthy, stay in shape, save your money, etc. He's probably working for chips and helps out with a lot of backstage stuff. I mean, if you are trimming the roster, it would make sense to get rid of a guy like him that you have no plans for, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's around after it all. Sin Cara: Yep. Tony Nese: This is a funny one. From the perspective of a fan, he's never meant anything and he's just sort of hovering about, so why would you keep him? But I just read something about him working more television matches than anyone else this year. They clearly have a function for him. It wouldn't shock me in the slightest, but I can see him staying if they are going with this cruiserweight thing. Kane and Mark Henry: Yeah, I think you're right about that. They'll probably still use them for spots and stuff, but I don't think they're going to be part of the main roster going forward. Aliyah: I had no clue about this drama. She's pretty young and even NXT doesn't seem to have much for her, and they are probably going to stock up on some for these Mae Young Classic girls. I had her on my list before I knew about the drama. It might be a case of "go out there, mature a bit and we'll talk in two years or so." Buddy Murphy: I can see this one in the "We've tried a whole bunch of stuff with you and it just hasn't clicked." He seems to be a Triple H favorite, but you can kind of feel the lack of anything happening. It wouldn't surprise me, but it won't be for any hostile reason. He's a dude I can also see going to Japan and getting crisper before coming back. Roderick Strong: I actually can't see this one. I haven't been a fan, but I think he'll slip onto the main roster very soon -- even if it's just as a body for 205 Live. I can actually see him winning the Cruiserweight Title to stick it to Austin Aries. I dunno, I'm kind of expecting them to go forward with Roddy. Sawyer Falton: This one I can't see either. I haven't been following NXT, but I can see him plugging in somewhere. Wesley Blake: I find something quite charming about Wesley Blake, and I think in time he'll find something, but like Buddy Murphy I can see it just being the culmination of what he's gotten from NXT and how it just doesn't seem like the right step forward with him right now. I hope he doesn't give up. |
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07-27-2017, 11:43 PM | #35370 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Haven't the Colons already been cut?
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07-27-2017, 11:46 PM | #35371 | |
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I didn't realize Nese had worked more TV matches than anyone - I do like him a lot but that's still a surprise stat. And yeah, Rowan makes more sense to cut than Harper but at the same time Rowan is somebody they could easily send back to Raw and throw back with Bray and nobody would think twice - especially since it's been implied that Rowan's still controlled by Bray from afar. Harper on the other hand seems to have properly "broken free" as Strowman did. I actually could see Harper himself wanting out just because there's clearly going to be a nice market for him outside of WWE. |
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07-27-2017, 11:47 PM | #35372 |
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Tony znese is incredible. Really hope he stays.
Also that Braun story sounds fake as fuck. |
07-28-2017, 12:04 AM | #35373 |
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I don't know why I find joy in this, but it amuses me that Lance Storm and Cyrus are terrified of Suzuki. |
07-28-2017, 12:04 AM | #35374 |
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Some other names I thought about:
Apollo Crews: He's got the Titus Brand stuff going on, but how important does the company see it? And the reason he's in that situation is because they're clearly worried about his personality. Big Show: Not as an official release, as I think he'll be in that same class with Kane and Mark Henry, where if they're ever in Tampa they'll give him a buzz and get him to come out and Chokeslam someone. Or if they ever need filler for a Royal Rumble. He'll probably get offered a much smaller contract to not go anywhere else and still appear in video games and such. Bo Dallas: Before this Miztourage thing, I had him in mind as a guy they'd cut to go and get more experience elsewhere and find a gimmick that "clicks." They clearly like him, but what's he really getting from being there? And what are they really getting from him? That being said, he has a role now. But that could be changed very soon, with Miz being frustrated and firing him and Axel and his boys. Cesaro: He's a champ at the moment, so I doubt it would come right away, but I can feel them being exhausted with him. Like Luke Harper, with fewer guys on the roster, I can see them finding more cause to do things with him when things are tightened, but I wouldn't be astonished to hear about a quick switch of the tag belts and that Sheamus turned on him and now he's gone. The Cody Rhodes/Hardcore Holly thing. Curt Hawkins: He's there to lose to people, which is fine, but it's a role they don't really "need." When cutting costs, that sort of role could be filled by a local each week. They've let him go once. It's clear he's not going to be a star. It could just be his time. Curtis Axel: I'd keep him around, because I think he's a funny enhancement guy, but there's a definite ceiling on the guy. That being said, he's got the role now, but if they're trimming down, you can just imagine Vince McMahon seeing his name and saying "That guy still works for us?" Darren Young: I don't know if he's been medically cleared yet, but they've tried a lot with him and none of it has worked. It wouldn't shocked me if he didn't go, because he's got all those PR things they love, but I can see that also frustrating Vince, and in a big pack is the way to let him go. Enzo Amore: He's pissed people off backstage and they seem "done" with him. They might keep him because he's a good talker, but if they're cutting what they perceive as fat, they might feel it better to not have him around at all so people stop asking "Why are you doing this to Enzo?" This will be the Damien Sandow firing, if it happens. Goldust: Like the Rhyno situation, as a veteran who is probably there for cheap and being a leader, it wouldn't be shocking if he stays, but when you're cutting costs and you've already played this Goldust nostalgia thing out to minimum noise, it might just be a respectful "let's just use you on special occasions for stuff like the Dusty Rhodes Classic, etc." Kalisto: This one would shock me a bit, because there's clearly a place for him, but they're not putting him there, and what they've tried with him just hasn't worked. But they don't hae much Hispanic representation. It's a weird situation. I'm leaning towards him staying, but I wouldn't gasp. Anderson & Gallows: Don't really expect this one, but given that Vince thought he would be getting two stars from Japan, and what he's gotten are two guys who are basically exhausted opponents, I can imagine him having a bit of buyer's remorse. I think it would be bad for morale, because apparently they are well-liked, but all firings are. This would be one of the bigger ones, and people would be upset and whinge about tag teams, but I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility. R-Truth: The veteran tap. He's annoying to me, but he's good at doing the fun stuff at house shows, I guess. They might want to do something with him in a more cleared up roster, but he falls into that Goldust and Rhyno category for me. Titus O'Neil: They seem to love him, but everything he just doesn't work. They have seemed to acknowledge that by taking him out of the ring, but no one really takes the role seriously. I think he's one of the more unlikely ones, especially given that feel-good stuff he does, but when cutting the costs, he seems like one of the least detrimental cuts to the entire roster. Cruiserweights: None of them would surprise me. They represent a lot of cultures and that sort of thing, but beyond Neville, who is really important to them? Who has worked? Jack Gallagher, maybe, but you can't run with that forever (they might try though). I can see Kendrick becoming an agent or trainer, but I could see his talent contract being terminated. Even Akira Tozawa wouldn't shock me. Have they even used Metalik? Will they once this current crop of guys are gone? Are they paid enough for Vince to care to fire them? None would shock either way. Aiden English: I like English and I think he fills a good role. I could see him being paired with Elias Samson down the track. But if things are as dire as the company makes out, and they clearly have no serious intention of doing anything with him, I can see him being a cut of the glut, so to speak. James Ellsworth: This one would be somewhat surprising, since they've plugged him into all these storylines, but it's like the Colin Delaney thing. Vince gets over these acts, and they definitely have a shelf life. Deep down, he probably knows how lucky he is to get as far as he has. The Ascension: No offense to these guys, but I'm surprised they have lasted as long as they have. Tye Dillinger: They brought him up, it hasn't worked, they gave it a shot, "we like you, pal, but it's just not the right time for us." I am tempted to put an act like Mike Kanellis in here, but it's too soon for even Vince to cut bait with that. Dillinger is new on the main roster, but he's had over a decade long relationship with WWE, and it's only gotten ironically noticeable very recently. Zack Ryder: I struggle with this one. You'd think they'd have released him years ago, but he always manages to survive. He hosts a YouTube show or something for them apparently. I thought "Man, they won't cut him because he's doing that thing," but maybe they want to cut the show? Does it make them money though? But what do you even do with the guy? He's not good enough to warrant much. I see him staying, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is only one Hype Bro left and they don't even get to the heel turn. Becky Lynch: I'm half-joking with this one. But they clearly don't have any intention to use her. Kevin Dunn hates her voice. She's actually had quite a few clunkers, despite being "good." Maybe they offer her a training position or agent role, but I could also see her being one of those people they just feel better off not having around if they are trying to push other talent, because they feel she's too distracting, or whatever. This would be the most heart-breaking one, but there are usually a few that do get people upset. Tamina: Okay, yes, they need women, but Tamina has been their AGES and it has never meant a thing. They've got Nia now. They could get other girls from this tournament. I wouldn't relish in her losing her job, but there's only so many times she can be the bodyguard before it just runs it course and proves ineffective. I felt like she might have been going before the trial with her father stuff came up, but then you don't really want to put her firing in the news. Then there was a brand split and there was this practical reason to try something with her. It might just be another case of exhausting the options. JBL: Okay, this one won't happen unless JBL wants a holiday, but with Renee Young working both shows and Corey Graves already being there for the 205 Live stuff, I could see them cutting down on their slew of announcers. They probably should have gotten rid of him during the bullying thing, which they didn't handle well. Vince loves him, but looking at things pragmatically, do you really NEED him announcing your shows? I imagine he probably gets paid more than some of the active talent too. |
07-28-2017, 12:12 AM | #35375 |
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Assuming the rumor about the roster cut does happen, can see it just being a few from the main roster and the real bulk from the Cruiser and UK divisions. Both right now are a big drain on the WWE. NXT probably getting a big batch of cuts because of the amount of new people recently brought in.
Main roster divisions don't have enough depth right now or in the immediate pipeline outside of the women's division to survive major cuts done there. Doubt Triple H would be happy again with another gutting of NXT. |
07-28-2017, 12:14 AM | #35376 |
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Didn't read that whole post, but "lol" @ Becky Lynch "They clearly don't have any intention to use her".
She has just been one of the focal points of the division since the start. Yeah, she isn't the champ or going for the title right now, but they always make sure that she has some story going and is on TV most weeks. |
07-28-2017, 12:18 AM | #35377 |
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Oh, and you know? Another two that would be "big shockers," but really wouldn't surprise me, are Lana & Rusev. Just something about their personalities makes me think that Vince hates them a lot, and they're probably on good deals.
The ones I'd actually predict are Hawkins, Enzo, Goldust (it feels like he got to do it as a goodbye), English, Ellsworth, The Ascension, Emma, Epico, Sin Cara, Ziggler, Mickie James, Murphy and Blake. Maybe Almas and Itami too, to be honest, if they are miserable. But I could see them randomly getting called up to fill some spots and at least try some stuff before they let them go. Promote them and see if things clear up, and if they don't work, then it's the release. You know what? Fuck it, I'm going to put Dallas, Axel, Rusev and Lana in there too. |
07-28-2017, 12:22 AM | #35378 | |
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I don't think they will. Neither division is particularly stellar and she is a good sidekick for whoever the top babyface is, and they haven't done the Four Horsewomen Four-Way. It was a hyperbolic suggestion, but would you truly be shocked by it? |
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07-28-2017, 12:27 AM | #35379 |
Taller than Adam Cole
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I want a Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Enzo Amore match.
Only because I'm a sadist and I amuse myself with the idea of this conversation taking place in the audience... Fan 1: (coming back from the concession stands) Did I miss any... What, what the fuck? How did Enzo end up like that? Fan 2: Zack Sabre Jr., man. Fan 1: But, how did he tie Enzo up in a bow on that post? It's perfect in every way. The human body doesn't bend like that? Fan 2: Neither did Enzo's. But it does now! Because Zack Sabre Jr. |
07-28-2017, 12:27 AM | #35380 | |
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If they decide to put Gargano, Strong, Itami and Kalisto in the Cruiserweight Division, you can basically sub out four of those guys who just haven't clicked or whatever without losing depth or numbers. You can also probably cut some more given that they aren't using everybody. I can see Tyler Bate and Pete Dunne being brought into the main roster and the WWE UK idea just being scrapped. |
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07-28-2017, 02:10 AM | #35382 | |
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07-28-2017, 02:33 AM | #35383 |
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It wouldn't surprise me if they "shut down" NXT. Vince can see it as 95% of the people called up from NXT flopping around like fish out of water on the main roster. Aside from the women that were called up who basically compruse 80% of the current women's roster (Tamina natty & Mickie ) . the only guy that's been called up from NXT since it was a network show and amounted to anything was KO..and maybe Neville but he flopped and they redid his whole character. Finn Balor has even been a flop. Samoa Joe doesn't really count. The list of flops is a mile long.
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07-28-2017, 03:30 AM | #35384 |
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Interesting. I don't think they will, but I imagine it costs a lot of money to run, and they probably don't make much. How valuable is that experience? Arguably, not very. I can still see them doing Takeover shows with talent that are training. There's a way that I could see that working. Obviously it won't have the same week-to-week story, but more of a showcase.
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07-28-2017, 03:30 AM | #35385 |
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Holy shit, Ron Fuller's story on Jim Cornette's podcast is AMAZING!
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07-28-2017, 09:20 AM | #35386 |
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07-28-2017, 11:03 AM | #35387 |
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Bryan Adams Vs Skrilla - This is WRESTLING. This is GWC. Now!
Pretty good brawl between the talented Bryan Adams and the legendary Skrilla. |
07-28-2017, 01:28 PM | #35388 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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Damn, Bryan Adams sure went downhill after Kronik.
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07-28-2017, 01:29 PM | #35389 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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KRONIK... Kronik... kronik...
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07-28-2017, 01:32 PM | #35390 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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Whoops just realized Brian (with an "I") Adams died, thought it was Brian Clark that died. Ah well, fuck this impostor!
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07-28-2017, 01:37 PM | #35391 |
President of Freedonia
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Wrath was awesome
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07-28-2017, 02:05 PM | #35392 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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07-28-2017, 02:49 PM | #35393 | |
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According to PWInsider, the story about Karen Angle and Braun Strowman getting into an argument is true based on their sources but the incident itself was said to be nothing more than just "a drunken conversation between two drunk people in a bar that got loud, nothing more."
Doesn't necessarily debunk the stuff about Karen cutting a promo against Braun or Braun begging on his knees thought but incident was likely less wacky/crazy than people are speculating. Quote:
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07-28-2017, 03:33 PM | #35394 |
BAY BAY
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Good work! |
07-28-2017, 03:42 PM | #35396 |
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07-28-2017, 11:34 PM | #35397 | |
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Otherwise its not doing the majority of wrestlers in nxt any favors having them be huge stars in nxt only to have them get torpedoed the minute they get their break on the main roster |
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07-28-2017, 11:46 PM | #35398 |
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07-29-2017, 12:21 AM | #35399 |
BAY BAY
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07-29-2017, 03:06 AM | #35400 |
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I am glad that we don't have such chair shots anymore
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