07-25-2018, 06:21 PM | #321 |
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How awesome is it that Miz and Mrs just got double the number of viewers as Total Bellas. I hope Miz trolls Daniel Bryan with this on Smackdown next week lol
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07-25-2018, 07:16 PM | #322 |
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SD ratings went up this week to 2.34
Miz and Mrs did 1.47 million -wrestlinginc |
07-25-2018, 11:14 PM | #323 |
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owenbrown = ratings
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07-26-2018, 05:04 AM | #324 |
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That is a premier episode. It's a great number though. I imagine everyone is very happy with that. I imagine Rusev and Lana will be next.
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08-07-2018, 06:09 PM | #325 |
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RAW did a 2.8 this week
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08-07-2018, 07:29 PM | #326 |
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Hourly decline from start to finish this week wasn't that bad overall at around 100k but since RAW started off with lower numbers, pretty much was a guaranteed to be a bad week.
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08-08-2018, 06:30 PM | #327 |
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SD did a 2.1 rating, down from 2.4 last week
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09-25-2018, 07:16 PM | #328 | |
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This week's RAW managed to set the dubious record of lowest ever viewed show in RAW history when not counting holidays or taped episodes.
That yearly drop might be the biggest ever as well. Quote:
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09-27-2018, 05:49 PM | #329 |
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The big story there is the placement with the demo. That's going to be a bigger gauge to how the product is faring with USA than anything else, because if the demo mark-up stays in line, they are still the best for advertising. They're actually losing their appeal with that, and it's not just an analogous television decline.
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09-27-2018, 05:51 PM | #330 |
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#4, #6 and #7 means that other things were #1, #2, #3 and #5. WWE has not been in that position for a long time, and other things have not had that opportunity in a long time.
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09-28-2018, 12:55 AM | #331 |
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Well football is responsible for the top few spots which happens every year. It’s more concerning that they struggle to beat Love and Hip Hop. I also noticed Smackdown has it’s own competition that beat it last week in the form of some show I’d never heard of. They used to crush all the non-sports competition. Even when they had another wrestling show eating into their rating.
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09-29-2018, 12:39 AM | #332 |
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Oh, I don't follow football season, so I didn't know that. I'm still hopeful for their decline. I want to see change.
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09-30-2018, 12:58 AM | #333 |
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In terms of actual ratings, last Monday's episode was around a 1.64 and WWE likely will hit a new all-time record low either later this year or around this time next year if current trends continue.
The current record is a 1.5 rating from a December 23, 1996 episode of RAW. In terms of comparisons with WCW, RAW already has a few episodes that have been lower than the worst ever rated episode of Nitro (1.75). |
09-30-2018, 02:38 AM | #334 |
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I find it hard to find the ratings as opposed to the viewership, which I always assumed was because it sounds much worse than having 2.5 million viewers or whatever. Which has always been a more salient point when discussing ratings, because yes, while viewership is going down, the ratings are going down too. They're losing a share of the audience. And while there are more options on cable than they might have been during the Monday Night Wars, with television dying they are still losing ground.
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09-30-2018, 03:02 AM | #335 |
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Based on what I remember and some really rough math, think the current system might be a 1.0 rating equals around 1.6 million viewers for WWE's shows.
Whole thing gets confusing at times since different equations are used depending on the demo group and if your show is on cable or network tv. Then you have the different hours which I think also have their own weight for ratings. Viewership is also a lot more fickle so the only real way to know if a show is a real hit or heading towards disaster is via the ratings numbers since its a lot less fluid. |
10-02-2018, 05:53 PM | #336 | |
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Took a week for WWE to break their record for least viewed episode in RAW history. 1st hour started out low and then went all downhill afterwards. Quote:
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10-02-2018, 06:04 PM | #337 |
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"You deserve it"
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10-02-2018, 07:58 PM | #338 |
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Is that third hour still performing the best in terms of placement? A while ago I used to check on it, because I want it gone, haha, and it was actually by far comparatively the best performing hour because there's less on television at that time -- so tough titties to it being cut. But it's coming dangerous close to dropping below that magic 2 million viewer line...
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10-02-2018, 08:27 PM | #339 |
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lol Fuck WWE
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10-02-2018, 08:39 PM | #340 | |
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10-02-2018, 08:46 PM | #341 |
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Ratings don't matter like they used to, but it is no coincidence that viewers are skipping Raw more because they have been in cruise control since they got their huge money deals.
In addition they have the huge money deal from the Saudis, a big money show in Australia, and hyping a separate charity every month while also constantly pushing the narrative of how great a company they are for showcasing women, I can see why they are just coasting. That being said, at some point they are going to have produce better television if they want to stop losing viewers. Raw doesn't feel like destination TV. You could have skipped the last 3 weeks and the only thing you would have missed at all is subtle teasing that Ambrose might be considering bailing on the Shield and that Lashley got a manager for some reason, and no they never explained it at all, it just is. Other than that, you could pick right back up where you left off in early September. |
10-02-2018, 08:51 PM | #342 |
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What was the lowest Monday Nitro ever did?
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10-02-2018, 08:59 PM | #343 |
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1.75 from an episode in December 2000.
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10-02-2018, 09:01 PM | #344 |
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10-02-2018, 09:03 PM | #345 |
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Back in the 90's college kids used to have "Raw parties" and "Nitro parties".
Can you imagine a Raw party in 2018? I imagine it would end with a mass suicide by the time the second hour was over. |
10-02-2018, 09:08 PM | #346 |
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People used to have Raw parties, meaning the show didn't need to be on in all but one of their homes, and yet they were still killing it. Now most people would ask "You watch that crap? You know it's fake, right?" And this is why indy geeks think it's a good idea to show that it's obviously fake, but that's even worse.
Doug Stanhope said about royal families: "Oh, they don't really do anything. They're more figureheads." You do realize how that is worse, right? |
10-02-2018, 09:24 PM | #347 |
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Feel bad for people who didn't experience the hectic energy of wrestling on Monday nights in the mid-late 90's. It was insane.
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10-02-2018, 09:34 PM | #348 |
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To think at the absolute height of it between Raw and Nitro together they were getting a combined total rating topping 12, which is Damn near 20 million people.
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10-09-2018, 06:01 PM | #350 | |
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10-09-2018, 06:03 PM | #351 | |
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Good/Bad news from this week's RAW numbers.
The good being WWE managed to stop the historic low slide and the bad being this week still managed to be the 3rd worst of all-time. WWE was really lucky Drew Brees breaking an NFL record happened early into the MNF game and the Red Sox vs Yanks MLB playoff game was over very early as a competitive game since RAW's numbers could have been even worse. Quote:
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10-09-2018, 10:19 PM | #352 |
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I don't know if I'll call a one-week increase definitively stopping the slide. It was coming off a PPV which involved drama involving Shawn Michaels, Triple H, The Undertaker, Kane, etc. Maybe some of the surprise returns -- Trish Stratus, Kurt Angle, Paul Heyman, etc. will help make things interesting and get people back, but I think what's going to be more interesting is how the number next week does, and whether or not that equates to generate interest.
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10-16-2018, 05:49 PM | #353 | |
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Another Good/Bad news week for RAW.
The good being it went up again and the bad being it still managed to be 4th worst viewed show of all-time. Those 2 weeks where WWE set historical low records did a ton of damage to RAW's general interest. Quote:
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10-16-2018, 06:28 PM | #354 |
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3rd hour drop not as bad as it has been it seems.
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10-17-2018, 07:05 PM | #355 |
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Coming off a show with a bunch of returns last week, it makes sense it is up. Still shocking though. I don't imagine they're about to get more good wiil, and the show this week sounded awful. I'm going to predict that next week's is a drop.
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10-23-2018, 05:48 PM | #356 | |
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This week managed to have a sizeable bump even though rankings-wise, its still struggling to get back to its usual spots.
Also the rare time where 9PM was the strongest hour and likely due to the people tuning in during the show to know more about Reigns' situation and if it was legit or just another cheap attempt by Vince to get Reigns cheered. Quote:
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10-30-2018, 05:56 PM | #357 | |
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No Roman, No Viewers
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10-30-2018, 05:57 PM | #358 |
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Wow.................shocked............
I guess Pats/Bills were closer than expected but I expected some type of jump. |
10-30-2018, 07:53 PM | #359 |
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Tbf it went back to the level of the week prior. I suspect they got a bump last week with people tuning in to get the news about Roman/see what WWE did to react.
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10-30-2018, 08:09 PM | #360 |
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I'm interested to see how the WWE doing Crown Jewel affects their ratings, if at all. I'm inclined to speculate that it won't, but when the WWE does the show, maybe it becomes news? Not just left-wing social commentary news, but maybe when they actually do a show from Saudi Arabia, it sets into audiences? I can imagine there are some people that just don't give a shit, but I'm sure there are some people who are like "they won't do it" or are like "I'll believe it when I see it," and then will be like "oh, fuck, they actually did it!" If WWE does a propaganda video, that is going to get air time.
Fuck it, this could be great. |